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  • radioraheem
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    #61
    Originally posted by tokon
    this whole "negotiation" thing is somewhat strange. if a fighter is clean what's to negotiate; just say give me any test, anytime just give the other guy the same tests.

    PED's are rife in combat sports - and they are the sports where they should be especially tested for! Fighters HURT each other and one fighter using drugs to increase his performance in a FIGHT is especially dangerous.
    They're trying to figure out which agency to use. It would be between using NSAC, USADA, or VADA. Out of the three, NSAC is arguably the best to go with because there is less conflict of interest. And more importantly, NSAC needs to be doing random drug testing themselves for more fights period.

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    • BuckToothed
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      #62
      Um, it's pretty clear what they are negotiating on... penalty/fine for failed test.
      I don't think they are thinking of USADA, both fighters are VADA tested.

      How much did Rios get penalized for? Berto? Peterson? Suspension is not enough, it just gives the cheater more time to cheat on his down time.

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      • radioraheem
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        #63
        Originally posted by BuckToothed
        Um, it's pretty clear what they are negotiating on... penalty/fine for failed test.
        I don't think they are thinking of USADA, both fighters are VADA tested.

        How much did Rios get penalized for? Berto? Peterson? Suspension is not enough, it just gives the cheater more time to cheat on his down time.
        Arum couldn't use NSAC's random drug testing for Pacquaio vs. Rios for obvious reasons. So VADA was used. For Bradley vs. Marquez though, NSAC's random drug testing program was used for both fighters instead of VADA. So I'd imagine Arum would like to do this again for Pacquaio vs. Bradley 2.

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        • BuckToothed
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          #64
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          Arum couldn't use NSAC's random drug testing for Pacquaio vs. Rios for obvious reasons. So VADA was used. For Bradley vs. Marquez though, NSAC's random drug testing program was used for both fighters instead of VADA. So I'd imagine Arum would like to do this again for Pacquaio vs. Bradley 2.
          That's only because Marquez was acting like a biatch in regards to OST. He wants USADA, VADA, NSAC as long as Bradley has a rehydration clause.

          Bradley uses VADA, Pac used VADA... this negotiation isn't about that, it's the penalty for failing which makes perfect sense.

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          • ailicec
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            #65
            Pac fans silent about "NEGOTIATING" when it comes to Pac.

            Pac fans cried about Marquez negotiating with respect to Drug tests against Bradley but if it's Pac doing the negotiating I hear silence. THERE IS NOTHING TO NEGOTIATE OTHER THAN WHATEVER ONE FIGHTER GETS PENALIZED FOR THE OTHER SHOULD GET THE SAME PENALTY IF ITHER ONE IS CAUGHT CHEATING. USE BOTH VADA AND USADA.

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              #66
              I bet Giorgio A. Tsoukalos would like to get his hands on a Bradley blood sample, with a head like that he may have a little E.T. DNA

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              • sugarsmosley
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                #67
                How much you wanna bet floyd fans will be bumping this thread after pacquiao wins lol

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                • Vasyl’s dad
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jrrod02
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                  Originally Posted by Cgarcia

                  Pacquiao didn't refuse testing. He agreed to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests. How many times do we have to repeat this? He agreed to more than what Money Mayweather have been subjecting himself into. I repeat Pacman didn't refuse testing. He agreed to unlimited urine and 3 blood tests which included tests right after the first press con and immediately after the fight.

                  Guys like Pederson and Berto got caught by urine samples taken almost three months before their respective fights. Show me a link where so-called extra testing is any different from what Pacman had agreed to. They most likely had just one blood tests and most of it is urine. Show me links.


                  Wow, now you're just being silly. The request by the Mayweather camp was random OST. Random, meaning no cut off dates, no specific dates, and it could be done as many times as was needed.
                  Pacquiao said no.
                  I cannot believe you're defending a guy who actually wanted to be tested only on specific dates. Guess that is not su****ious at all.

                  And if according to you urine is enough, which is what NSAC does, why all of the sudden is Pacquiao asking for OST which includes blood testing?
                  Random, is year round. Floyd is just making up his own rules. BTW, until Manny does year round, its just as pointless.


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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
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                    Originally Posted by Bronx2245

                    I remember people saying Floyd used the test issue to duck a fight. Now the same fighter is for testing. Funny how things change!

                    Manny must have gotten over his fear of needles.
                    my account vs yours, IP ban. You prove Manny said he's afraid of needles, I go. yo can't prove that, you go. ,bet?


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                      #70
                      Originally posted by radioraheem
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                      Originally Posted by Cgarcia

                      Random bs. You clowns need to stop this. Money Mayweather never went beyond 14 days cut off. Besides, knowing that tests would be conducted within a set period is no random. If your hero really wants it clean, go the Donaire way, year round testing.

                      Stop this foolishness. Your hero is the biggest roider in the sport and gets away with positive test results. I'd be avoiding this subject if I were you. It's embarrassing. A guy who claims to be a sport cleaner turns out to be the dirtiest. Hehe... makes me puke.

                      The USADA test schedule shows otherwise, than there was no cut-off and no 14-days. Only the first fight with Mosley had around a 14 or so cut-off, but not really, because they also got tested on the day of the fight.

                      Nonito Donaire's year-round testing is a joke too because it's not being done for his opponents. So Donaire may be clean, but his opponents might be very dirty. So what is the point? If Pacquaio does year-round random drug testing, and his opponent like Marquez does not, what is the point? It is foolish to protect your opponent, while not protecting yourself.
                      usada protocol is year round. why would they change it?


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