Dana White saying Mayweather would....

[NearHypnos]

Now you turned this into Floyd hating. I can see your mindset is very shallow.

Jones has a wrestling background - he's been wrestling far longer than GSP has, yet GSP is the better wrestler of the two. That is as simple an example I can give you.

Gsp also has a wrestling background... As well as boxing..and karate and Bjj iirc. Gsp started earlier than did Jones. Skill wise, again..he's supposed to be more skilled (though it's up to debate if GSP is even better than Jones on the feet in general..). Look, GSP is a fine athlete but you seem to have this image of skill being "athleticism". As a pure athlete, Jones is better and Floyd is too. I really don't understand what your fixation is but this is ridiculous. I honestly don't know how to get you to realize how wrong you are. You've clearly got a very closed mind and some form of grudge goin'. It's like trying to tell a "crazy" person they're crazy.. Or telling a person who smells bad that they stink. Somewhere along the way it's just not registering for you. I don't get it. You're having these "debates" when clearly you're wrong. I'm sorry, bro. Bless your heart..or somethin there's nothing I can do

[Sirius Dogon]

I don't agree with that. Mayweather isn't as good an athlete as GSP, for example, but GSP can't specialize in boxing. That's why each do what they do - Mayweather would be a crappy MMA fighter and GSP would be a crappy boxer.

[Foreign Soil]

Now do that gif to all the other people who agree with me. Fool.

[Foreign Soil]

Gsp also has a wrestling background... As well as boxing..and karate and Bjj iirc. Gsp started earlier than did Jones. Skill wise, again..he's supposed to be more skilled (though it's up to debate if GSP is even better than Jones on the feet in general..). Look, GSP is a fine athlete but you seem to have this image of skill being "athleticism". As a pure athlete, Jones is better and Floyd is too. I really don't understand what your fixation is but this is ridiculous. I honestly don't know how to get you to realize how wrong you are. You've clearly got a very closed mind and some form of grudge goin'. It's like trying to tell a "crazy" person they're crazy.. Or telling a person who smells bad that they stink. Somewhere along the way it's just not registering for you. I don't get it. You're having these "debates" when clearly you're wrong. I'm sorry, bro. Bless your heart..or somethin there's nothing I can do

Incorrect. GSP doesn't have a wrestling background like Jones does. GSP learned wrestling on the spot - that equals superior athlete. Now go on a rant and look foolish as usual.

[way2strong]

Now do that gif to all the other people who agree with me. Fool.

there's no way anyone in the ufc would be able to beat fraudy at any athletic events besides weight lifting ....elite boxer's run 10 miles and fight 12 rounds ...elite UFC fighter(champions) fight 5 rounds and if they do happen to see the 4th,5th round there all out of gas huffing and puffing throwing wild sloppy punches or just resting there head on there opponents chest while ground grappling

[Foreign Soil]

there's no way anyone in the ufc would be able to beat fraudy at any athletic events besides weight lifting ....elite boxer's run 10 miles and fight 12 rounds ...elite UFC fighter(champions) fight 5 rounds and if they do happen to see the 4th,5th round there all out of gas huffing and puffing throwing wild sloppy punches or just resting there head on there opponents chest while ground grappling

Lol @ making stuff up. Bradley couldn't even do exercises that his MMA friend does - do I need to post the video?

[Syf]

Boxers wouldn't necessarily be "murderers" in MMA gloves - Floyd would break his hand on the first punch. It should be widely known that boxing gloves allow you to punch harder because it protects the hands better.

Many MMA fighters do come from different backgrounds from what they once specialized in. Wrestling, jiu jitsu, kick-boxing, judo. The trick is taking the skills you have and making them useful for MMA, otherwise you're toast.

MMA and boxing conditioning are somewhat different. Grappling conditioning is different from boxing and can be grueling if it's nonstop grappling. MMA fighters do boxing as part of their training - a few boxers do wrestling as theirs. It's different but just as hard. Nick Diaz competes in triathlons - he could throw punches for days.

Agree partly about Mayweather, which was my point about him not being the greatest athlete in boxing but a great tactical mindset, and I can see him being good at other combat sports but certainly not all of them, especially with his brittle hands - he couldn't even compete in MMA.

I clearly said the great ko artists of boxing. Not just any boxer. I dont buy that bigger gloves allow you to punch harder. They might allow you to punch MORE, but far more damage over a short period of time is done by a smaller glove than a larger one. What made/makes Floyd's hands brittle is the prolonged damage accrued on them over round after round and punch after punch. It could also be argued that far less damage is sustained to the hands due to the ability to end a contest sooner with less punches thrown in an mma match than in a boxing match. Don't know if you've laced up, but boxing gloves can be awkward things. A thumb can get caught up or the hand can otherwise be out of alignment to be injured, and it makes it harder to judge because of the bulkiness of the glove. Mma gloves would allow a trained ko artist from the boxing world to position his two strongest and most structurally sound knuckles on the point of impact with more reliability, hence reducing risk of hand injury. Excluding that, even if a hand is broken, Id rather be the guy with the broken hand than the broken face.

I still have found that one can get more results martially by PERFECTING a specialization and then, and only then, branching out to adapt your system you have mastered to be effective in all conditions. This is more or less what Bruce Lee did with Wing Chun. This is where Mayweather comes in. Its easier for a master of any martial discipline to add wrinkles to their game to keep effective with their perfected skillset than it is for a guy building himself from the ground up trying to learn 7 disciplines at once. Mma has fallen into this trap of putting up a glass ceiling for themselves. There is a difference between dilution and enrichment. Mma'ers, on a large scale, misunderstand the nature of the founder of Jeet Kun Do, and consequently, the philosophy of the art itself.

Nick Diaz... so has he thrown 333 strikes over 3 5 minute rounds?

[way2strong]

Lol @ making stuff up. Bradley couldn't even do exercises that his MMA friend does - do I need to post the video?

was he doing his own training camp or off season training when he has no fight coming around .. yeah post the vid bradley is legit...

edit: reading above post and laughing hard nate diaz is the biggest b1tch in the ufc and would never win a belt if he hasnt already who likes guys who talk and get beat up then talk some more no pride in being beat up

[Syf]

Try grappling and throwing punches for the same length of time.... Or, try hitting the bag as hard as you can for a certain amount of time...then go against a fully resisting grappler. There is no comparison with respect to which activity is more strenous. Try this and let your experience be your guide.

Look I have trained guys in MMA and I don't like the sport....And I dont think its a slight on boxing but it has been shown that in a ring if the two opposites are striking and grappling grappling, all factors being equal grappling will win. It does not matter how good the boxer is because he/she won't land in a way meaningful enough to stop the grappler unless he/she is very lucky.

Why in the world do you train fighters in a sport you dont like? Refer me to these examples of mma supremacy. Victories over boxing's castoffs and retirees need not be mentioned. A grappler has to get in in on a world level ko artist...march right through his wheelhouse. That moment can be timed and exploited.

[NearHypnos]

Incorrect. GSP doesn't have a wrestling background like Jones does. GSP learned wrestling on the spot - that equals superior athlete. Now go on a rant and look foolish as usual.

Gsp wrestled. Lol wtf. It's well known GSP went into wrestling and boxing after karate (unless Im wrong but i dont feel like googling) Please tell me you're kidding. Now, he didnt exclusively wrestle like Jones did but jones literally had ZERO training and went into MMA and within a VERY short time was in the UFC....With no prior formal striking or bjj training (like gSp since he was like 8 or some s hit. Google it ) jones is the epitime of a good athlete in mma. Troll harder man. I can already tell that's what you're doing.