why is pacquaio ranked top 5 @ ww and he hasnt had a good win in so long?

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  • LoadedWraps
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    #41
    Originally posted by therealpugilist
    Previous fight beat unranked Rios and gets number one wbc ranking....a joke


    Marquez put him to sleep

    Bradley won a controversial fight, manny should have won but officially lost

    Mosley hadn't won a fight in years by the time manny beat him

    Got a gift against Marquez where most thought he lost...me included, Marquez at that point had the most definitive fight win taken from him.



    If it was another fighter he would be lower top ten or unrated
    He hasn't had a legit win over a top 5 guy in years, since last decade
    Because the people in charge of updating the list are Ptards, and a non existant boxing IQ.

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #42
      Originally posted by therealpugilist
      I agree about canelo, he beat unranked Hatton for the belt, but he did beat trout who beat cotto who was highly ranked only lost a Dec to Mayweather prior


      Canelo will be facing Angelo next who is lower top ten, his comp is getting stiffer

      This isn't about canelo, stay on topic, do you think beating guys from lower weight classes earn you a spot in another? IM sure you don't....face the facts Pacquiao has not officially beat a top welterweight in 5 years....he should beat a top ten guy or be lowered....it happens to everyone else.
      Why was Cotto highly ranked at 154? Cause he beat Yuri Foreman? Lol, come on..rankings are BS....Who has Maidana beat at Welter? Thurman? Malinaggi? Porter? Alexander? None of them have beaten anyone better then Bradley or Manny...

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        #43
        If you truly ranked the welters it would look something like this

        C- Floyd

        1. bradley
        2. maidana
        3. jmm
        4. manny
        5. porter
        6. thurman
        7. brook
        8. pauli
        9. abregu
        10. alexander

        or something along those lines

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        • ADP02
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          #44
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          If you think a fighter who is 1-2 in their last 3 fights deserves to be in the top 5 in a weight class it shows who really has an agenda

          Keeping it real is all i do, I dont get involved in all the fan boy bs most people do on here. I stick to my guns and the facts. My posts are 90% fact and 10 % my opinion whereas others on here its vise versaThis is keeping it real....Manny is not a top 5 welterweight. He lost to Marquez who is 1-3 at the weight. Clear losses to Bradley and Mayweather and a robbery loss to Pacquaio in the third fight. Experts, media, and myself scored it for Marquez, the third fight his ranking is a farse

          Bradley is undefeated at the weight....what has he done? beat non-descript Abregu, unranked at welterweight Provodnikov, 1-3 Marquez at WW, and got a gift against Pacquaio who prior to that clearly lost to the unranked Marquez in their 3rd fight.


          They are spending time fighting each other and un ranked guys when other guys are really making noise....Marquez should retire, he isnt fighting Manny I doubt he could beat Bradley unless he knocks him out...After Bradley and Pacquaio fight again they should move and fight real welterweight contenders
          Marquez lost the 3rd fight officially yet you brought that up in your first post and again now ..... so you are not sticking to the facts as that was opinion ..... that is, unless you bring up Manny shoulda had the win but officially lost to Bradley! Then you conveniently stuck to the facts! That is, Manny lost.

          BUT

          then to prove another point you contradict yourself (Manny is 1-2) by saying, "what has Bradley done? He really should have lost to Manny"? More opinion made by you but contradictory!

          So is Manny 2-1 in his last 3 fights or 1-2? Make up your mind!!!


          FACT: Both Bradley and Marquez did beat Manny. Right? So by beating someone like Manny, who was considered #1 or #2 at WW and P4P, you obviously get ranked high. Right? They then fight each other to a close fight, so that means that they both fought a highly ranked opponent. Higher than anyone else. Right?

          Rankings: I agree they are not always accurate and I have disagreed with them too on many occassions. Still, if you are a Floyd fan, you should remember that his fans keep on bringing up opponents like Guerrero, Ortiz and others and flaunt their high rankings even though they beat a guy who had a suspect resume ..... at least Marquez and Bradley beat Manny!!!

          The latest laugh that I had was when I saw the WBC ranking Khan as #2 at WW. Now I believe he dropped to #3 ..... so you will see, IF that fight gets made, a lot of Floyd fans will one day have a list of Floyd's opponents and on that list, they will have Khan's name with #3 ranked on it.

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            #45
            Originally posted by ADP02
            Marquez lost the 3rd fight officially yet you brought that up in your first post and again now ..... so you are not sticking to the facts as that was opinion ..... that is, unless you bring up Manny shoulda had the win but officially lost to Bradley! Then you conveniently stuck to the facts! That is, Manny lost.

            BUT

            then to prove another point you contradict yourself (Manny is 1-2) by saying, "what has Bradley done? He really should have lost to Manny"? More opinion made by you but contradictory!

            So is Manny 2-1 in his last 3 fights or 1-2? Make up your mind!!!


            FACT: Both Bradley and Marquez did beat Manny. Right? So by beating someone like Manny, who was considered #1 or #2 at WW and P4P, you obviously get ranked high. Right? They then fight each other to a close fight, so that means that they both fought a highly ranked opponent. Higher than anyone else. Right?

            Rankings: I agree they are not always accurate and I have disagreed with them too on many occassions. Still, if you are a Floyd fan, you should remember that his fans keep on bringing up opponents like Guerrero, Ortiz and others and flaunt their high rankings even though they beat a guy who had a suspect resume ..... at least Marquez and Bradley beat Manny!!!

            The latest laugh that I had was when I saw the WBC ranking Khan as #2 at WW. Now I believe he dropped to #3 ..... so you will see, IF that fight gets made, a lot of Floyd fans will one day have a list of Floyd's opponents and on that list, they will have Khan's name with #3 ranked on it.


            So do you consider Pacquiao a top 5 welterweight? For the exits this thread ha absolutely nothing to do with Mayweather...they are not attached at the leg, why people on nsb can't understand that

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              #46
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              Previous fight beat unranked Rios and gets number one wbc ranking....a joke


              Marquez put him to sleep

              Bradley won a controversial fight, manny should have won but officially lost

              Mosley hadn't won a fight in years by the time manny beat him

              Got a gift against Marquez where most thought he lost...me included, Marquez at that point had the most definitive fight win taken from him.



              If it was another fighter he would be lower top ten or unrated
              He hasn't had a legit win over a top 5 guy in years, since last decade
              Obviously you are a floydiot and you know all the floydiots are brainless.

              Pac fought Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Cotto and beat them easily gave them the worst beating without making a sweat while your boy went life and death against them.

              Clottey and Margarito will beat Ortiz and Guerrero easily while Pac as shown before will not making a sweat giving these two the worst beating of their life. Pac last 3 fights showed he is still a top p4p fighter.

              He beat Bradley easily even with half ass effort and was looking really good against Marquez until he delivered his face first to Marquez "Memo" powered punch.

              People were banking on that ko and assumed Pac was damaged good (cracked chin) but his recent fight against Rios proved he is still a force to reckon.

              Floyd since he faked his retirement from 2007 to duck prime younger Cotto, Mosley and Margarito he fought 6 times only comparing to Pacquiao who fought 14 times since 2007. Take note 3 of Floyd's opponents already beat by Pacquiao not to mention the other one was weight cheated by Floyd, one was sucker punched and the other one was weight drained even thought Floyd is a 2 times champ at 154. So based on these undeniable facts how come you didn't question Floyd ranking?
              Last edited by straightleft; 01-25-2014, 11:04 PM.

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                #47
                One more thing this floydiot TS also forgot Pac was a former flyweight champ and not even a real welterweight to begin with not to mention welterweight is his 9 weight divisions now (he skipped fighting at super flyweight and bantamweight).

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                  #48
                  A better question to me is how is Ward still ranked #2 P4P?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by straightleft
                    One more thing this floydiot TS also forgot Pac was a former flyweight champ and not even a real welterweight to begin with not to mention welterweight is his 9 weight divisions now (he skipped fighting at super flyweight and bantamweight).
                    If you're gonna call someone a "floydiot," you might want to come off less like a pacroach as I call it, or parctard as is the common term. Just a suggestion.

                    Your previous post is so incredibly biased, has so many holes, and is just plain laughable.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      If you're gonna call someone a "floydiot," you might want to come off less like a pacroach as I call it, or parctard as is the common term. Just a suggestion.

                      Your previous post is so incredibly biased, has so many holes, and is just plain laughable.
                      Please elaborate. Floyd since his fake retirement from 2007 only fought 6 times vs Pac 12-14 times give and take and 3 of those already by beat Pac, the others were weight cheated,sucker punched and weight drained besides Cotto and Canelo were in 154.

                      So basically Floyd in 6 years only fought 4 times at welterweight but then how come the floydiots didn't question his WW ranking?
                      Last edited by straightleft; 01-25-2014, 11:41 PM.

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