Remember when Ward didn't want to fight bute and said hes going to 175?

[V.WEBB]

They could have still agreed the fight while Ward recovered from his injury. They didn't because Ward wasn't willing to.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What's funny? Read Ward's quotes. He didn't want to fight Bute until he "proved himself" despite it being the biggest fight out there for him. Call it what you will but his excuses were weak.

[V.WEBB]

let's be real about this;

if froch beat ward you guys would praise prince dre for 50 years to build froch up.


ward beat your best guys, and it hurts. i get it, dawgs. believe me. i feel for you. i ain't mad at ya.

It hurts bad. Allllllll these years later. So much so that Ward "ducked" Bute. Comedy.

[V.WEBB]

What's funny? Read Ward's quotes. He didn't want to fight Bute until he "proved himself" despite it being the biggest fight out there for him. Call it what you will but his excuses were weak.

What's funny is the "he ducked Bite" talk, that's funny.

[New England]

I explained in that same post why it doesnt matter in this argument.

Bute was the fighter Ward should have faced after the tournament.

bute should have made it by at least one of ward's leftovers, and they would have made the fight.


you want to call ward a duck. you don't want to call bute a duck. both chose not to fight each other. ward actually fought in the tournament, and bute wanted to skip the tournament to fight the winner. it's not complicated.

i get it, dog. believe me. if carl froch beat ward you'd be singing his praise, the way the brits do with kessler today.

[Rome-By-Ko]

I explained in that same post why it doesnt matter in this argument.

Bute was the fighter Ward should have faced after the tournament.

Bute did nothing to earn the right to fight for the SMW Championship of the world..Ward had a get some rest card bro,he just won the SS,and Bute had done nothing to earn a shot at Ward..So in one sense I get what ya saying..In reality tho,Ward did not have to do anything..That was Bute's fault as much as anything..

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What's funny is the "he ducked Bite" talk, that's funny.

Well call it whatever you want but he reneged on the biggest fight out there for him. No wonder he's trying to leave his promoter and basically verbally blowing Chavez Jr to get a fight....

[V.WEBB]

bute should have made it by at least one of ward's leftovers, and they would have made the fight.


you want to call ward a duck. you don't want to call bute a duck. both chose not to fight each other. ward actually fought in the tournament, and bute wanted to skip the tournament to fight the winner. it's not complicated.

i get it, dog. believe me. if carl froch beat ward you'd be singing his praise, the way the brits do with kessler today.

What was Bute's win? Honestly have no idea.

[LacedUp]

It most certainly was. What fights were bigger than Ward-Bute at the time?

It doesn't really matter how good you thought he was. He was a huge name and ticket seller in Canada. It was a big money fight - certainly the biggest Ward could get at the time.

It might have been the biggest fight in the SMW division, but most certainly not across boxing.

Take any fighter of PPV value and pair him with john doe and it would be bigger.
At the time (March 2012, onwards) though here's a few:

Mayweather-Pacquiao
JCCjr - Martinez
Pacquiao - Marquez 4
Mayweather - Canelo
Haye-Chisora
Klitschko-Povetkin
Haye-Vitali

And that's just a few..

[V.WEBB]

Well call it whatever you want but he reneged on the biggest fight out there for him. No wonder he's trying to leave his promoter and basically verbally blowing Chavez Jr to get a fight....

Reneged? So he agreed to fight him before? If so, I totally missed that.