Matthysse vs Garcia - Would Matthysse have won with both eyes?

[-PBP-]

Might as well say "would Matthysse have won if Danny didn't punch him in the face?".

[Tom Cruise]

IMO,Matt's loss by more then just a rd..That's just me tho..

I had a two round win for Garcia

[Rome-By-Ko]

Might as well say "would Matthysse have won if Danny didn't punch him in the face?".

LMAO,Would Matt's have won ,if Garcia had his hands tied behind his back..LMAO..

[Rome-By-Ko]

I had a two round win for Garcia

I think I had it 3 rds for Garcia..Not really a azz beating..A clear cut win tho...

[bojangles1987]

Mathysse is one dimensional.

When I saw Garcia take Mathysse best punch I knew he would eventually take control of the fight. People say he lost the first rounds. But they were close rounds. Could have gone either way.

The way I see it , the fight was being fought at Mathysse pace. Danny was figuring it out and weathering the storm. Once he found the distance and started landing some punches he slowed him down.

Lucas lost steam mid way through the fight. He was so confident in his power and when he saw Danny was just as strong and could dish it and take it I saw different body language from Mathysse.

People need to get over the loss. Danny would beat him even worst in a rematch in my opinion. Danny has improved a lot. Is not one dimensional as Lucas. And his confidence right now skyrocketed. I think Danny stops Lucas in a rematch.

This is where I have a problem. Matthysse didn't slow down and lose steam in the middle of the fight. His eye closed shut and he couldn't see what the hell was happening. Lucas was winningl until that happened. Why are people pretending that something else happened?

That's the only problem I have when people discuss this fight. People act like Garcia made some grand adjustments that changed the fight. Hell, if Danny had landed some huge punches to close the eye, I wouldn't even mention it. The fight was decided in the 3 rounds during and after Matthysse's eye closed, from a punch that 99 times out of 100 would not even injure an eye, let alone close it in 10 seconds.

The rest of the fight was fought evenly. Where were these huge adjustments Matthysse couldn't handle when he came on strong again in the 11th and 12th? If Garcia had him so figured out, why didn't you dominate at the end like he did in the middle when the eye first closed?

The hype posters like myself placed on Matthysse and the disrespect we showed Danny is deserving of some criticism and being laughed at and made fun of. But people are letting the pre-fight talk color the post-fight talk of what actually happened. I will never deny Garcia his credit for winning this fight, because he did win this fight justly. But he didn't dominate, he didn't close Lucas's eye with huge punches, and the rounds he won when Lucas's eye closed played a huge factor in his victory.

[Erislandy lara]

Yeah mattyhse would have win that fight with both eyes open

[Rome-By-Ko]

This is where I have a problem. Matthysse didn't slow down and lose steam in the middle of the fight. His eye closed shut and he couldn't see what the hell was happening. Lucas was winningl until that happened. Why are people pretending that something else happened?

That's the only problem I have when people discuss this fight. People act like Garcia made some grand adjustments that changed the fight. Hell, if Danny had landed some huge punches to close the eye, I wouldn't even mention it. The fight was decided in the 3 rounds during and after Matthysse's eye closed, from a punch that 99 times out of 100 would not even injure an eye, let alone close it in 10 seconds.

The rest of the fight was fought evenly. Where were these huge adjustments Matthysse couldn't handle when he came on strong again in the 11th and 12th? If Garcia had him so figured out, why didn't you dominate at the end like he did in the middle when the eye first closed?

The hype posters placed on Matthysse and the disrespect we showed Danny is deserving of some criticism and being laughed at and made fun of. But people are letting the pre-fight talk color the post-fight talk of what actually happened. I will never deny Garcia his credit for winning this fight, because he did win this fight justly. But he didn't dominate, he didn't close Lucas's eye with huge punches, and the rounds he won when Lucas's eye closed played a huge factor in his victory.

Bo your being a bit unfair here bro..Garcia made adjustments on spacing,was very physical with Matt's as well..I don't agree that Matt's was winning either(before the eye closed),I had an even fight when the eye swelled up..There is nothing to suggest to me that if Matt's eye did not shut he would have beat Garcia..Garcia was taking his fire power,punishing Matt's body,and ****ing him around physically..Garcia had a great game plan bro,your trying to make it sound as if some lucky shot change the course of the action..Which is simply not true..

[Doctor_Tenma]

The fact of the matter is Matthysse never had his way with Garcia, even in the rounds he won. People need to give it up and a rematch likely goes the same way.

[MODAPHUKA]

This is where I have a problem. Matthysse didn't slow down and lose steam in the middle of the fight. His eye closed shut and he couldn't see what the hell was happening. Lucas was winningl until that happened. Why are people pretending that something else happened?

That's the only problem I have when people discuss this fight. People act like Garcia made some grand adjustments that changed the fight. Hell, if Danny had landed some huge punches to close the eye, I wouldn't even mention it. The fight was decided in the 3 rounds during and after Matthysse's eye closed, from a punch that 99 times out of 100 would not even injure an eye, let alone close it in 10 seconds.

The rest of the fight was fought evenly. Where were these huge adjustments Matthysse couldn't handle when he came on strong again in the 11th and 12th? If Garcia had him so figured out, why didn't you dominate at the end like he did in the middle when the eye first closed?

The hype posters like myself placed on Matthysse and the disrespect we showed Danny is deserving of some criticism and being laughed at and made fun of. But people are letting the pre-fight talk color the post-fight talk of what actually happened. I will never deny Garcia his credit for winning this fight, because he did win this fight justly. But he didn't dominate, he didn't close Lucas's eye with huge punches, and the rounds he won when Lucas's eye closed played a huge factor in his victory.

I don't agree. At all.

Lucas could have been winning in some people's eyes but in others Danny was winning. Until his eye started bothering him after the "punch" or whatever people want to call it , the fight was super close. But not wide open for anybody. And if I remember Lucas's corner did an awesome job of keeping that eye open. So people using that excuse is not fair. Danny capitalized on that too. But he was already changing the pace of the fight. Danny was bigger anf stronger , Matthysse's imposed his style early and was the aggressor but Danny wasn't running. He was boxing him very effectively. They both had their moments up until the eye incident. And in my eyes Danny was getting better and adjusting even prior to the incident and it carried to the second half of the fight. I'm not going to say that it wasn't an advantage late when the eye got really bad , but I believe Danny would have still won regardless.

He was the better man.

[bojangles1987]

Bo your being a bit unfair here bro..Garcia made adjustments on spacing,was very physical with Matt's as well..I don't agree that Matt's was winning either(before the eye closed),I had an even fight when the eye swelled up..There is nothing to suggest to me that if Matt's eye did not shut he would have beat Garcia..Garcia was taking his fire power,punishing Matt's body,and ****ing him around physically..Garcia had a great game plan bro,your trying to make it sound as if some lucky shot change the course of the action..Which is simply not true..

It did change the course of the action. Lucas's best rounds were 5 and 6. His eye closes in round 7 from what was absolutely a freak circumstance, just look at the video, and the fight changed. By the time Lucas got back in it and his corner managed to open his eye a little, Danny had won 3 rounds. Then Lucas had a better 10th, 11th, and 12th. The fight was decided int he 7th, 8th, and 9th, when Lucas couldn't see at all out of his eye. We're talking an 8-4, 7-5 fight. 3 rounds makes all the difference.

It's a fight, it happens, and it is not an excuse. It is no reason to take any credit from Garcia, I do not and have never done so. But I hate that people pretend otherwise.