Matthysse vs Garcia - Would Matthysse have won with both eyes?

[bojangles1987]

I'm not even going to say Garcia wouldn't have won if not for the eye. Perhaps he would have. But he didn't, and the effect on Lucas when his eye closed is obvious and should be undeniable. It bothers me that people deny it anyway.

[Rome-By-Ko]

It did change the course of the action. Lucas's best rounds were 5 and 6. His eye closes in round 7 from what was absolutely a freak circumstance, just look at the video, and the fight changed. By the time Lucas got back in it and his corner managed to open his eye a little, Danny had won 3 rounds. Then Lucas had a better 10th, 11th, and 12th. The fight was decided int he 7th, 8th, and 9th, when Lucas couldn't see at all out of his eye. We're talking an 8-4, 7-5 fight. 3 rounds makes all the difference.

It's a fight, it happens, and it is not an excuse. It is no reason to take any credit from Garcia, I do not and have never done so. But I hate that people pretend otherwise.

See this is where you lose me a bit..What was so freakish about it??It was a solid well timed shot that closed his eye..Not like Matt's tripped on his way to the corner or something..A punch closed that eye bro..

[bojangles1987]

See this is where you lose me a bit..What was so freakish about it??It was a solid well timed shot that closed his eye..Not like Matt's tripped on his way to the corner or something..A punch closed that eye bro..

It was a grazing shot that was arguably the back of the glove. Shots like that don't normally close eyes, let alone that quickly. It was a punch, which is why there's no excuse in the injury-we aren't talking a thumb or headbutt, after all-but Garcia could land that punch 100 times and probably never close another eye in his life like he did Matthysse's.

[Bigg Rigg]

Maybe but it is what it is. And Danny wasn't even suppose to be alive have to seen past rd 3.

[BMWM3P]

He would have won if they wouldn't have counted the bull**** knockdown imagine if he had both eyes. It was a completely different fight before the eye injury to deny it is just sheer ******ity.

[mrlopez]

i truly do not know if he wouldve won

but i do know that even with one closed eye, it was competivie. if he had both eyes, who knows. what i do know is that up until the 6th round when it happened, matthyse was pressuring the hell out of garcia. the kd was bs imo....id love to see a rematch!

if gbp is able to put chino/broner, garcia/matthyse and gonzo/mares on the under card of may's con fight, then i'd buy it!!!!!

[SnakeVen0m]

but i do know that even with one closed eye, it was competivie. if he had both eyes, who knows. what i do know is that up until the 6th round when it happened, matthyse was pressuring the hell out of garcia. the kd was bs imo....id love to see a rematch!

if gbp is able to put chino/broner, garcia/matthyse and gonzo/mares on the under card of may's con fight, then i'd buy it!!!!!

That would be the PPV of the year unless Floyd/Pac was made. I'd pay full price for it too.

[mrlopez]

That would be the PPV of the year unless Floyd/Pac was made. I'd pay full price for it too.

Can you imagine if these clowns(tr&gb) were able to work together again how many huge fights we'd have? they both are killing the sport imo

[Shadows]

Possibly, such an injury is bound to have some effect on a fighter.

[TOBYLEE1]

If Lucas had both eyes healthy maybe he would had won the fight, maybe. The same way that nobody could had predicted that his eye was going to swell is the same way you can't predict how the fight would had ended.

There is a video with some grazed punch the cause the eye injury. More than likely that side of Lucas face was tender already for the punches that he recieved and started to swell with the graze.

Too many what ifs when in fact Lucas lost and wasn't complaining