Andre Ward: “I think Manny Pacquiao has a great legacy, but we got to be honest about

[DeadLikeMe]

Remember thats what happened to Sergio Martinez..
Martinez was the big scary man that Mayweather was ducking....
And then...Martinez calls out Pacquiao at a CW of 151-153...And Pac fans tottaly flipped, Martinez has been labeled a old man cherry picker every since.

By page 5 of that thread Manny was 5'5", by page 15 he was 5'2" without his shoes on.

[djtmal]

1. (#1 Floyd PPV) Oscar Floyd 2.5 million PPV buys

2. (#1 Pacquiao PPV) Pacquiao Marquez III 1.45 million PPV buys

3. (#2 Floyd PPV, although #1 in PPV revenue) Floyd Canelo 2.2 million PPV buys

4. (#2 Pacquiao PPV) Pacquiao Mosley 1.3 million PPV buys

5. 148 lbs Pacquiao beat 147 lbs Oscar in the ring.

6. 151 lbs Floyd beat 170 lbs Oscar in the ring.

7. Floyd agreed to 50:50 and $10M/lb penalty.

8. Pacquiao refused random PED testing with no cutoff date.

9. When Floyd tried to make the fight happen, Arum said no, they HAVE to build an outdoor stadium first.

10. If Floyd copromotes with Top Rank, he will have to share the profits with Bob Arum and HBO, his direct, hostile competitors. Apparently, Pacquiao supporters can't understand why it's a bad business move to share a huge profit with direct, hostile competitors, when you could just wait them out instead.

I guess stuck on ****** is the rally cry for 2014

[Chalino Sanchez]

Lol sometimes fighters just do not think before they speak

yeah coz u know better than a real champion boxer right?? ****** butthurt paktird muda phuka

[cjgrey]

I guess stuck on ****** is the rally cry for 2014

1. (#1 Floyd PPV) Oscar Floyd 2.5 million PPV buys

2. (#1 Pacquiao PPV) Pacquiao Marquez III 1.45 million PPV buys

3. (#2 Floyd PPV, although #1 in PPV revenue) Floyd Canelo 2.2 million PPV buys

4. (#2 Pacquiao PPV) Pacquiao Mosley 1.3 million PPV buys

5. 148 lbs Pacquiao beat 147 lbs Oscar in the ring.

6. 151 lbs Floyd beat 170 lbs Oscar in the ring.

7. Floyd agreed to 50:50 and $10M/lb penalty.

8. Pacquiao refused random PED testing with no cutoff date.

9. When Floyd tried to make the fight happen, Arum said no, they HAVE to build an outdoor stadium first.

10. If Floyd copromotes with Top Rank, he will have to share the profits with Bob Arum and HBO, his direct, hostile competitors. Apparently, Pacquiao supporters can't understand why it's a bad business move to share a huge profit with direct, hostile competitors, when you could just wait them out instead.

[TonitosWay]

That's an opinion. Everyone can have an opinion. But the following three are facts:

1. Floyd's best PPV number (Floyd Oscar) is almost 1 million more than Pacquiao's best PPV number (Pacquiao Marquez).
2. Floyd agreed to 50:50 and $10M/lb penalty.
3. Pacquiao refused random PED testing with no cutoff date.

Actually his biggest ppv draws were with Mosley & Oscar.

Every fighter the "Golden Boy" touched turned into gold/a draw. The guy is the king.

[boxingfeind]

"but Manny has fought everybody, he’s kind of a throw back from that standard."


I guess the HBO propaganda brainwashed him too.Pac-juicer has avoided Zahir Raheem,Nate Campbell,Juan Guzman,Yuri Foreman,Mark Too SHarp Johnson,Tim Austin,Rafeal Marquez,Floyd Mayweather back in 2010 when he refused testing even though Floyd offered him 50%,Mosley when he had something left.

[IronDanHamza]

How ridiculous

To be fair though, anyone with a grain of sense doesn't consider the Dawson fight to be legitimate anyway.

[mrlopez]

"I think Manny has a great legacy, but we got to be honest about some of his fights though. The De La Hoya fight, that’s a fight I don’t know how it would of played out if De La Hoya had been able to come in full strength, but it’s no secret that De La Hoya really had to suck himself down. Cotto had to lose weight."

how about floyd fighting a lightweight in jmm and floyd not making the contracted weight, how bout floyd fighting canelo and making canelo lose weight? wards become a biased hater too....why doesnt he ask the same questions of his partner floyd?

[sugarsmosley]

"but Manny has fought everybody, he’s kind of a throw back from that standard."


I guess the HBO propaganda brainwashed him too.Pac-juicer has avoided Zahir Raheem,Nate Campbell,Juan Guzman,Yuri Foreman,Mark Too SHarp Johnson,Tim Austin,Rafeal Marquez,Floyd Mayweather back in 2010 when he refused testing even though Floyd offered him 50%,Mosley when he had something left.

wamp wamp waaaaamp.....

[joseph5620]

"I think Manny has a great legacy, but we got to be honest about some of his fights though. The De La Hoya fight, that’s a fight I don’t know how it would of played out if De La Hoya had been able to come in full strength, but it’s no secret that De La Hoya really had to suck himself down. Cotto had to lose weight."

how about floyd fighting a lightweight in jmm and floyd not making the contracted weight, how bout floyd fighting canelo and making canelo lose weight? wards become a biased hater too....why doesnt he ask the same questions of his partner floyd?

Did Marquez weigh 135 for that fight? I must have missed that part of it.