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  • Bushbaby
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Yes he could but you don't turn down more money for less money just for the sake of it. I've given you something solid, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why Khan is bringing more to the table than Erislandy Lara. He has a global appeal in countries around the world. The UK PPV market alone dwarfs anything Lara is bringing. It will do a good number on Sky Box Office here. What is Lara bringing? Cuban PPV? Lol...please enlighten me.
    I'm not the 1 claiming to know, you are. But you've still not put forth anything solid. I want to know how much more would Khan actually bring?? I figure they're gonna have to work extremely hard to promote this fight as a serious match-up. There's a lot of tweaking among other things to make the fight seem legit.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      I'm not the 1 claiming to know, you are. But you've still not put forth anything solid. I want to know how much more would Khan actually bring?? I figure they're gonna have to work extremely hard to promote this fight as a serious match-up. There's a lot of tweaking among other things to make the fight seem legit.
      Are you 5 years old? Can you not comprehend that the fight will do excellent numbers in the UK at about £15-20 per PPV. The Hatton fight did 1m PPVs. Khan is less popular here than Hatton so it may only do half of that. Do the maths if you want some kind of number. That's leaving out the other international markets to which Khan will appeal given the fact that he's half asian and a ******. Who does Lara appeal to apart from hardcore fans? Use your ***ing brain.

      Or just keep burying your head in the sand if you wish

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      • New England
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        #53
        Originally posted by sugarsmosley
        i've been saying feed lara to canelo, let him school him that will get him a lot of recognition. but no, promoters are too scared to lose another potential cash cow, than make the best fights possible. it's sickening.


        you're in the wrong sport if a promotor trying to make money makes you sick.


        i don't f#cking get you bsceners. i just don't. i never will.

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #54
          Just a complete and utter lack of awareness.

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          • cupocity303
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            #55
            The thing that perhaps irks fans is when a fighter becomes so popular and can generate so much revenue, that he doesn't rely on the traditional Champion VS Top contenders system.

            In Floyd's case, he keeps WBC just as a prop. Nobody in the WBC rankings is thinking, "geez if I only could fight for a #1 contender mandatory spot, I will get Floyd".

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              #56
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Are you 5 years old? Can you not comprehend that the fight will do excellent numbers in the UK at about £15-20 per PPV. The Hatton fight did 1m PPVs. Khan is less popular here than Hatton so it may only do half of that. Do the maths if you want some kind of number. That's leaving out the other international markets to which Khan will appeal given the fact that he's half asian and a ******. Who does Lara appeal to apart from hardcore fans? Use your ***ing brain.

              Or just keep burying your head in the sand if you wish
              This is all true. But then again, there aren't many true draws left in Boxing, now are there? Lets see, you've got Cotto (check), Marquez (check), Pacquiao, Alvarez (check) and Khan.

              If we go on that basis, Floyd doesn't have a whole of opponents left to face. He will have to ignore his entire division and the entire 154 division because they all can't sell out a small ballroom, yet alone do numbers on PPV.

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              • MindBat
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                #57
                Unfortunately, fans won't always get the most exciting fights and matchups for numerous reasons. Sometimes we're disappointed in fights that were expected to be great or exciting and we get crappy ones.

                But when the great and exciting ones do happen we would be sure to appreciate them that.much more.

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                • Bushbaby
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Are you 5 years old? Can you not comprehend that the fight will do excellent numbers in the UK at about £15-20 per PPV. The Hatton fight did 1m PPVs. Khan is less popular here than Hatton so it may only do half of that. Do the maths if you want some kind of number. That's leaving out the other international markets to which Khan will appeal given the fact that he's half asian and a ******. Who does Lara appeal to apart from hardcore fans? Use your ***ing brain.

                  Or just keep burying your head in the sand if you wish
                  So solid European base, international this and so on. But you're still not putting a face on the monster. The fight is busted, it'll take a lot more to promote. Khan would expect to be paid more, "supposedly cause he brings all his stardom on board". It's a farce, it'll cost to buy it out. It cannot sell itself since Khan is garbage. I'd like a number, something to work with. Something it's clear that you cannot nor could not provide. Sounds like you're just typing just to show you can, but oh well.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    So solid European base, international this and so on. But you're still not putting a face on the monster. The fight is busted, it'll take a lot more to promote. Khan would expect to be paid more, "supposedly cause he brings all his stardom on board". It's a farce, it'll cost to buy it out. It cannot sell itself since Khan is garbage. I'd like a number, something to work with. Something it's clear that you cannot nor could not provide. Sounds like you're just typing just to show you can, but oh well.
                    JEFF POWELL: Amir Khan is to do battle with Floyd Mayweather in the richest fight ever to involve a British boxer. He will meet the greatest pound-for-pound fighter in the world in Las Vegas on May 3.


                    The fight is expected to generate $200m. Is that enough for your tiny brain to comprehend?

                    Khan's purse will be something like $6m. Mayweather will be gauranteed $40m or so and he'll keep all of the US PPV plus get a share of the UK PPV - probably at least 50%.

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                    • JaguaresMx
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by New England
                      if you're going to cry about boxers and promotors making money, then you ought to cry about business people and workers making money off of everything else. you're going to be doing a lot of crying.



                      want boxing to just be about pleasing fans?
                      go work for free for a while and get back to me.
                      Nothing is as black and white as you make it seem, especially sports.

                      If it was just about $, the Super Bowl feature the Giants and Raiders every year (assume they bring the most $$), but it doesn't. It allows a system of competition where sometimes the teams who bring less ratings/$ make it to the Super Bowl.

                      It's a business partly based on competition.

                      PS in other words, the NFL and other companies often sacrifice short term for long term viability and credibility
                      Last edited by JaguaresMx; 12-22-2013, 11:39 PM.

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