How valid is the GBP/TR excuse?

[Mike D]

Long story short, the money alone makes it worth making. Doesn't matter how relevant it is or whether or not y'all believe Manny "deserves it". Pro boxing is about the bottom line, nothing else.

[devildg]

well if the network is losing money due to Floyd's cherrypickin then something has to give

[puga]

So this tread is some twisted reasoning that a Pacman fan has of Floyd ducking Pacman? But the thing is Pacman can't beat Floyd and is a ****** fight right now. Ya'll keep asking for the fight 4 years too late. Do you like to be had?? If not stop acting like it.

shut your ass already ..majority of boxing fans still want this fight to happen ,you act like you represent a good amount of fans here..arrogant mother****er...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Long story short, the money alone makes it worth making. Doesn't matter how relevant it is or whether or not y'all believe Manny "deserves it". Pro boxing is about the bottom line, nothing else.

unless floyd fought a clone of himself,,, nothing brings more money to the bottomline than a manny fight,,

It does double or triple the revenue of anyone floyd could possible fight...

And that's THE BOTTOMLINE CUZ STONECOLD SAID SO

[techliam]

So this tread is some twisted reasoning that a Pacman fan has of Floyd ducking Pacman? But the thing is Pacman can't beat Floyd and is a ****** fight right now. Ya'll keep asking for the fight 4 years too late. Do you like to be had?? If not stop acting like it.

Is your reasoning that the fight shouldn't happen, because Pacquiao isn't anything near what he once was? He's still the most competitive opponent for Floyd's legacy right now, in my opinion. If that is your reasoning, I will have to disagree with you here buddy isn't usually the case

As for the TR/GBP excuse, I don't buy it. I buy the Arum/Floyd **** measuring excuse instead

[IMDAZED]

Even without GBP this fight isn't getting made. Unless you think Floyd should get rid of Al Haymon too, who Arum says he'll never work with again.

[Bushbaby]

shut your ass already ..majority of boxing fans still want this fight to happen ,you act like you represent a good amount of fans here..arrogant mother****er...

If the majority of boxing fans still want this fight then they're ******. The fight is 4 years too late. 4 years and a brutal ko too late.

4 years and a brutal ko.

[Bushbaby]

Is your reasoning that the fight shouldn't happen, because Pacquiao isn't anything near what he once was? He's still the most competitive opponent for Floyd's legacy right now, in my opinion. If that is your reasoning, I will have to disagree with you here buddy isn't usually the case

As for the TR/GBP excuse, I don't buy it. I buy the Arum/Floyd **** measuring excuse instead

He's most definitely not the most competitive fight for Floyd's legacy.

[Bushbaby]

I disagree. Would it be technically relevant and prove anything? Probably not. You're right about it being late. They should have fought in their prime obviously and that ship has sailed a long time ago. That said, this is prize fighting. It's about business. Money. Not belts. Floyd will be the first one to say as much.

And for as non-relevant as it may be nowadays -- it's still the most lucrative fight in the sport by miles. That alone makes it not a "****** fight" as you put it.

And do I think MP can beat Floyd? As much as I'd like to see it, if I had to bet any of the mortgage on it obviously the smart money would be on FMJ. That said, I could easily (EASILY) see Manny making it a more competitive fight than either of the first two fights of the Floyd/Showtime contract. And Amir Khan is absolutely laughable to most on this site, so you're telling me that fight is less ****** than a Manny/Floyd fight? Dude.

Obviously yes the fight makes money. Doesn't change the fact that we already know the most likely outcome. So why bother??

I suggest you go research how I feel about Floyd/Khan.

[HWChampion]

I never understood why floyd wont do business with top rank,,,

when top rank was doing business with GBP and giving us great fights like manny-jmm2, margs-shane, hatton-manny, cotto-shane,, Floyd was missing in action on some bogus "retirement"

Then when TR and GBP arent doing business floyd comes back,,

I have never heard of a fighter suing Top rank for ripping them off unlike don king,,

Say what you will about bob arum but his track record is amazing

1. handled some of ali's fights
2. worked with hagler the majority of his career on handshake deals
3. gave us all the superfights between the fab 4 of the 80s
4. handled george foreman's comeback
5. guided oscar to stardom and put him in vs ike, pernell, tito, shane-non TR fighters
6. guided pavlik to stardom
7. got chavez sr some major late career paydays
8. guided chavez jr to stardom
9. guided cotto to stardom
10. guided morales to stardom
11. guided margarito to stardom
12. guided manny to stardom, even though konzc is ripping off manny
13. guided floyd to stardom and ppv attraction
None have never had any beef with arum, outside of oscar but that was more promotional beef than fighter/promoter beef


yet floyd for some reason doesnt want anything to do with TR, even though they helped him out when james prince was hog tying his crew on the gym floor


The only possible explanation is that floyd didnt want none of the 07-09 roster of cotto, margs, and even GBP's shane
and now he doesnt want anything to do with manny

he is just trying to preserve his '0'

That is the only logical reason,,

hell cotto broke free from arum, went and got the floyd fight, and then still does business with arum

Nobody has yet to explain why floyd hates TR, in my mind its his excuse to duck
Its the only logical explanation

The notion of arum being this a**hole frankly is a myth, the guys track record like you pointed out shows he is a credit to boxing and good guy. I feel as though people envied arum so much that they want to make him fail. But the he is a decent guy, plus I loved his stance on sweet Weed after Chavez got screwed over.