Taylor, Lacy, Berto and now Broner.....

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  • VatoMulatto
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    #41
    Originally posted by luke1979
    When will the American media hype machine learn to walk before it runs?
    I understand no one has a crystal ball and all you can do is make an educated guess about a fighters prospects. But come on!
    If anyone should be being backed as the future to the level these guys were it should be Andre ward and Rigo, say what you want about their less than crowd pleasing styles. The likelihood is though that they will be dominant for a the foreseeable future.
    First of all Taylor doesnt belong on this list. Second nothinhg wrong with american media hyping up new boxers with potentional. EVERY country do the same thing regardless of sport. Regarding boxing British boxing commentators were acting like David Price was the next best thing, Cleverly was hyped up and you could add Tyson Fury to the list when he gets KO'd in the near future. Let's face it all countries get excited when they see an athlete that could very well go all the way.

    Broner's career is not over. Let's wait and see how he comes back next year.

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    • waxfondler
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      #42
      only a handful of fighters can shrug off a bad loss like that. hopefully adrien gets back on his game. he CLEARLY fell for his own hype. hanging out with floyd made him feel invincible. the same way khan felt when he rolled with manny.

      BOTH got harsh reality checks.

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      • brettWall
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        #43
        Hyping up a fighter too much sometimes have a limiting effect on the fighter's growth. He'll tend to believe in the hype and invincibility. Who is next? Thurman?

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        • Rome-By-Ko
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          #44
          Originally posted by billeau2
          Not so fast....

          I think a lot of posters assumed that a good fighter cannot be a hype job. I actually think Taylor was overhyped. I don't think he beat Hopkins either time. And it showed because after the HOpkins fights wouldn't you know it? He losr some fights people thought he would win. Taylor never really lived up to his potential and especially at the time there was a lot of that "hype job energy" surrounding him after his loses.

          Taylor was very strong and it turns out he gave Hopkins some problems (fair enough) due to his strength....but at that time grandpa Hopkins was hated by the boxing decision makers...he was beating up fighters who were supposed to become the suoerstars of tomorrow!

          Its funny how people forget....In the first fight one judge gave Taylor the last round when Taylor was practically 10-8ed! I mean the decision was a robbwry and as if to reaffirm this fact Taylor was quite mediocre and eventually exposed as a flawed fighter.

          Sounds like a hype job to me.
          Guy's like Taylor Khan Broner,can not be hype jobs..They have good wins under their belts..This is where your failing to use the word properly..Berto Lacy never had notable wins..It's like saying,Mares is a hype job,it sounds a bit dumb..Dude has beat to many good fighters to be consider a hype job..

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            #45
            Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
            Guy's like Taylor Khan Broner,can not be hype jobs..They have good wins under their belts..This is where your failing to use the word properly..Berto Lacy never had notable wins..It's like saying,Mares is a hype job,it sounds a bit dumb..Dude has beat to many good fighters to be consider a hype job..
            Broner doesn't have anywhere near as many good wins as Taylor or Khan.

            Broner barely beat Malignaggi, that's his one notable win.

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            • Rome-By-Ko
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              #46
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Broner doesn't have anywhere near as many good wins as Taylor or Khan.

              Broner barely beat Malignaggi, that's his one notable win.
              Your not being fair,De Leon and DeMarco were both good wins over top fighters in that respected div..Broner has good wins,just not really at WW..If Broner was still at 130-135 he'd be consider the best fighter there...I understand there is a lot of dislike for the guy..Just be fair..

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                #47
                Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                Your not being fair,De Leon and DeMarco were both good wins over top fighters in that respected div..Broner has good wins,just not really at WW..If Broner was still at 130-135 he'd be consider the best fighter there...I understand there is a lot of dislike for the guy..Just be fair..
                De Leon got sparked in 1 round at Super Bantamweight and he arguably beat Broner at Super Featherweight where he was most certainly not a top fighter in that division.

                I actually quite like Broner but he hasn't done **** and you're comparing him to guys who unified divisions in Khan and Jermaine Taylor. I wonder why you mentioned Khan

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  De Leon got sparked in 1 round at Super Bantamweight and he arguably beat Broner at Super Featherweight where he was most certainly not a top fighter in that division.

                  I actually quite like Broner but he hasn't done **** and you're comparing him to guys who unified divisions in Khan and Jermaine Taylor. I wonder why you mentioned Khan
                  I mentioned Khan cause he like Broner was called a hype job,which is absolutely ridiculous..Go ahead,keep detracting from one fighter,I can detract from Khan Taylor any fighter really..IMO tho,that's lame..How bout giving fighters their just due..I never said if you did or did not like Broner,tbh that's neither here nor there..What I said is to be fair which you are not doing..Broner is a three div Champion beat/destroyed the number 1 guy at 135lb..

                  Now I can start saying things about Khan or Taylor to stomp down their careers..I know both of their careers very well..It would be false tho,cause none of them,including Broner is what I would really call a hype job..

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    I mentioned Khan cause he like Broner was called a hype job,which is absolutely ridiculous..Go ahead,keep detracting from one fighter,I can detract from Khan Taylor any fighter really..IMO tho,that's lame..How bout giving fighters their just due..I never said if you did or did not like Broner,tbh that's neither here nor there..What I said is to be fair which you are not doing..Broner is a three div Champion beat/destroyed the number 1 guy at 135lb..

                    Now I can start saying things about Khan or Taylor to stomp down their careers..I know both of their careers very well..It would be false tho,cause none of them,including Broner is what I would really call a hype job..
                    Broner does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the other two.

                    I'm not detracting, I'm stating facts. You claimed Ponce De Leon was a top fighter at the weight Broner beat him - fact is he was clearly not and it's debatable if Broner really won that fight. DeMarco was never no1 at anything.

                    Broner's resume is ***ing gash compared to Khan's and Taylor's.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                      Your not being fair,De Leon and DeMarco were both good wins over top fighters in that respected div..Broner has good wins,just not really at WW..If Broner was still at 130-135 he'd be consider the best fighter there...I understand there is a lot of dislike for the guy..Just be fair..
                      Those are decent wins, at best. Malignaggi is a better win, to be honest.

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