The USA "GETTING RAN OUT OF BOXING" Debt clock and counting.

[The Big Dunn]

The list of Wlad's US opponents is below.

Tony Thompson
Eddie Chambers
Hasim Rahman
Tony Thompson
Lamon Brewster
Ray Austin
Calvin Brock
Chris Byrd
DaVarryl Williamson
Lamon Brewster
Danell Nicholson
Jameel McCline
Ray Mercer
Charles Shufford
Derrick Jefferson
Chris Byrd
Monte Barrett
David Bostice
Phil Jackson
Axel Schulz
Tony LaRosa
Everett Martin
Ross Puritty
Donnell Wingfield
Eli Dixon
Steve Pannell
Carlos Monroe
Najee Shaheed
Cody Koch
Everett Martin
Marcus McIntyre
Derrick Lampkins
Jerry Halstead
Marcos Gonzalez
James Pritchard
Gilberto Williamson
Paul Ashley
Mark Wills
Mark Young
Carlos Monroe
Troy Weida
Bill Corrigan
Exum Speight

[Wuckoo]

im American...what state you from???

lol I just presumed the thread talking about American boxing declining being made at this point, the carl froch profile pic, the carl froch thread stating he should take over from ward at no.1 super middleweight and your general disagreement with sound arguments made by your fellow Americans. The fact you used the word mate in that way also threw me off. Never seen an American use that phrase.

But look, point is people are making sound points but you seem obsessed with trying to say that the us will get run out of boxing. Boxing is declining but it is far from dead. Boxers from outside the us typically imagine stadiums like the MGM grand and Madison square garden when it comes to the big time. Even a lot of these Eastern Europeans you love do as well. Even if there are less champions in America, fighters will still fight in America as it is generally where most title fights are held. Because of this boxing still has some popularity in America. Boxing isn't exactly the most popular sport in the uk or other parts of Europe but champions still come out if there. It 'a the same case with America. It's just not as popular as it used to be but the talent and potential is still there and champions can still be made if they dedicate themselves.

[Wuckoo]

Wlad has Emasculated all the US Heavyweights...im sorry there is no other way to look at it. He lost early on in his career, and..hopkins lost his 2nd ever fight, ill assume you think that no mark is better than him???

Face it, statiscally(your the one that debatably using maths) uis breaking record after record for ATG Heavyweight status. Dont fight it, and his resume and career is far greater than Andre the ped buster, head butter, arm clincher ward....Plus wlad pulls fitter women.......

Like wooko, dont hate the player hate the game, the boxing game aint looking good for you yanks, you guys are skating on thin ice and ill be there to cathc you all when it breaks....

Lol are you American or not? You say you are American and then you say "you yanks" as if you aren't American. I'm not from the us and lots of non Americans are calling you out.

[slimshandy69]

The list of Wlad's US opponents is below.

Tony Thompson
Eddie Chambers
Hasim Rahman
Tony Thompson
Lamon Brewster
Ray Austin
Calvin Brock
Chris Byrd
DaVarryl Williamson
Lamon Brewster
Danell Nicholson
Jameel McCline
Ray Mercer
Charles Shufford
Derrick Jefferson
Chris Byrd
Monte Barrett
David Bostice
Phil Jackson
Axel Schulz
Tony LaRosa
Everett Martin
Ross Puritty
Donnell Wingfield
Eli Dixon
Steve Pannell
Carlos Monroe
Najee Shaheed
Cody Koch
Everett Martin
Marcus McIntyre
Derrick Lampkins
Jerry Halstead
Marcos Gonzalez
James Pritchard
Gilberto Williamson
Paul Ashley
Mark Wills
Mark Young
Carlos Monroe
Troy Weida
Bill Corrigan
Exum Speight

Yes, he oblitarated all of them in violent fashion and was winning both fights when he got koed as he was not the finshed product.

Manny made him the finshed item and he revenged one of the losses(lamont brewster) in brutal clinical fashion.

Now that ive cmprehensively won that debate you can answer a question of mine, whats your iq please?

[The Big Dunn]

Wlad has Emasculated all the US Heavyweights...im sorry there is no other way to look at it. He lost early on in his career, and..hopkins lost his 2nd ever fight, ill assume you think that no mark is better than him???

Face it, statiscally(your the one that debatably using maths) uis breaking record after record for ATG Heavyweight status. Dont fight it, and his resume and career is far greater than Andre the ped buster, head butter, arm clincher ward....Plus wlad pulls fitter women.......

Like wooko, dont hate the player hate the game, the boxing game aint looking good for you yanks, you guys are skating on thin ice and ill be there to cathc you all when it breaks....

Wlad has done that, I posted his list of US wins and losses. DOminating that list is like being the world's tallest midget.

As with hoops, you are so desperate to be better that you make too much out of wins over boxers that don't occupy the top tier. If thats taking over, so be it.

[slimshandy69]

Lol are you American or not? You say you are American and then you say "you yanks" as if you aren't American. I'm not from the us and lots of non Americans are calling you out.

i was born in America, im trying to be friendly as you said "you are giving us a bad name", i was born in Michigan. What state were you born in?

cheers, oh and a bit of manners wouldnt go a miss young man.

[slimshandy69]

Wlad has done that, I posted his list of US wins and losses. DOminating that list is like being the world's tallest midget.

As with hoops, you are so desperate to be better that you make too much out of wins over boxers that don't occupy the top tier. If thats taking over, so be it.

Like wookoo, you lost the debate, you are a decent man and youll come badck stronger.

Look at Wlad, he lost to brester despite being drugged and winning every round, dusted himself off and destoryed him the next time.

Maybe youll find a debate with me where you can find holes in my defence...

good luck mate.

[Divine Hammer]

i agree with this.

most of the people on my p4p list aren't american.

and top three for me is:

1. wlad
2. froch
3. pacquiao

[Wuckoo]

i was born in America, im trying to be friendly as you said "you are giving us a bad name", i was born in Michigan. What state were you born in?

cheers, oh and a bit of manners wouldnt go a miss young man.

Hey, I'm trying to be friendly. I presumed you were from the uk. I am not from America.
A bit of manners would not go amiss that's true. But I'm not the one asking people what their IQ is or talking as if I'm better than everyone else. I like wlad as well but you don't need to talk to anyone who disagrees as if they are dumb.

All I'm saying is you talk to people in a disrespectful way, expect the same back. I can respect some of the points you make but you don't seem to be open to reasoning from other posters.

[The Big Dunn]

Like wookoo, you lost the debate, you are a decent man and youll come badck stronger.

Look at Wlad, he lost to brester despite being drugged and winning every round, dusted himself off and destoryed him the next time.

Maybe youll find a debate with me where you can find holes in my defence...

good luck mate.

A fighter that loses to purity and Brewster in his prime isn't great. Declaring yourself the winner-fine with me.

The very best European/English boxers are equal to the 2nd and 3rd tier US boxers for now. if it changes, we will see.