The USA "GETTING RAN OUT OF BOXING" Debt clock and counting.

[slimshandy69]

Exactly, op forgets that old Emmanuel has trained a lot of non Americans who are doing pretty well.

no i havnt, if you look at my thread history i did a thread on "the best combination is eastern block fighter with Americas area training"

So you are wrong again...

[slimshandy69]

I already agreed with you US boxing is in decline.

I posted the facts to show you that wlad's dominance is against non americans while his losses have been against americans.

Besides-when wlad got KTFO a 3rd time where did he go for help. Yup, you guessed it-Emannuel Steward, from Kronk located in... wait for it...

Detroit, U S A

Patience, grasshopper. If you get to the top, celebrate then.

Again what is your IQ?

I did a thread on admitting America has the best trainers but Europe has the more Athletic/better boxers look at my thread history.

Also ive just looked at Wlads resume and 36 of his wins were Americans, if you do the math(s) that over 50 percent of his KOS being yanks..

Nice try, but again, whats your IQ?

[slimshandy69]

BTW TO SCHOOL YOU GUYS EVEN MORE HERES THE THREAD I DID ON AMERICAN TRAINERS AND Estern european fighters...

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607585

[Wuckoo]

no i havnt, if you look at my thread history i did a thread on "the best combination is eastern block fighter with Americas area training"

So you are wrong again...

Wrong again? When was I wrong before?

[slimshandy69]

Wrong again? When was I wrong before?

by referring to the American trainers training Easter european fighters.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=607585

Unlucky mate, no one beats me in a debate, just dust yourself off, tag along with me and youll be fine round here...

[The Big Dunn]

Again what is your IQ?

I did a thread on admitting America has the best trainers but Europe has the more Athletic/better boxers look at my thread history.

Also ive just looked at Wlads resume and 36 of his wins were Americans, if you do the math(s) that over 50 percent of his KOS being yanks..

Nice try, but again, whats your IQ?

while 67% of his losses are against yanks.

I could EASILY argue Wlad is taking advantage of the US decline and is LUCKY that boxing (just as horse racing) has declined in the US and that if the USA even pushed out moderate to average HWT's wlad likely would have more losses. I mean Purrity and Brewster aint exactly Tyson and Bowe.

Each of the examples you provided are boxers defeating Americans that are not the best. Each of the examples I provided are the very best english/European boxers losing to average and above average (in wlad's case woefully below average) US boxers. That's not to suggest every European win is against terrible opposition.

I agree we may see a change in the near future. I'm just suggesting you wait until it happens, if it ever does, before "fellatiating", for lack of a better term.

[Wuckoo]

by referring to the American trainers training Easter european fighters.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=607585

Unlucky mate, no one beats me in a debate, just dust yourself off, tag along with me and youll be fine round here...

When did I ever refer to Eastern Europeans being trained by Americans in particular? Andy lee isn't Eastern European last I checked? I like Eastern European boxers as much as the next guy but I don't see where I mentioned this before?

Unlucky mate, you're making debates where there are none and just trying to piss Americans off. Dust yourself off, stop making points where there are none and stop acting like you've made some kind of revolutionary point. You're making the rest of us look bad.

[Wuckoo]

while 67% of his losses are against yanks.

I could EASILY argue Wlad is taking advantage of the US decline and is LUCKY that boxing (just as horse racing) has declined in the US and that if the USA even pushed out moderate to average HWT's wlad likely would have more losses. I mean Purrity and Brewster aint exactly Tyson and Bowe.

Each of the examples you provided are boxers defeating Americans that are not the best. Each of the examples I provided are the very best english/European boxers losing to average and above average (in wlad's case woefully below average) US boxers. That's not to suggest every European win is against terrible opposition.

I agree we may see a change in the near future. I'm just suggesting you wait until it happens, if it ever does, before "fellatiating", for lack of a better term.

If hopkins beats kovalev we need to revisit this thread. "But but Eastern Europeans though"

[slimshandy69]

When did I ever refer to Eastern Europeans being trained by Americans in particular? Andy lee isn't Eastern European last I checked? I like Eastern European boxers as much as the next guy but I don't see where I mentioned this before?

Unlucky mate, you're making debates where there are none and just trying to piss Americans off. Dust yourself off, stop making points where there are none and stop acting like you've made some kind of revolutionary point. You're making the rest of us look bad.

im American...what state you from???

[slimshandy69]

while 67% of his losses are against yanks.

I could EASILY argue Wlad is taking advantage of the US decline and is LUCKY that boxing (just as horse racing) has declined in the US and that if the USA even pushed out moderate to average HWT's wlad likely would have more losses. I mean Purrity and Brewster aint exactly Tyson and Bowe.

Each of the examples you provided are boxers defeating Americans that are not the best. Each of the examples I provided are the very best english/European boxers losing to average and above average (in wlad's case woefully below average) US boxers. That's not to suggest every European win is against terrible opposition.

I agree we may see a change in the near future. I'm just suggesting you wait until it happens, if it ever does, before "fellatiating", for lack of a better term.

Wlad has Emasculated all the US Heavyweights...im sorry there is no other way to look at it. He lost early on in his career, and..hopkins lost his 2nd ever fight, ill assume you think that no mark is better than him???

Face it, statiscally(your the one that debatably using maths) uis breaking record after record for ATG Heavyweight status. Dont fight it, and his resume and career is far greater than Andre the ped buster, head butter, arm clincher ward....Plus wlad pulls fitter women.......

Like wooko, dont hate the player hate the game, the boxing game aint looking good for you yanks, you guys are skating on thin ice and ill be there to cathc you all when it breaks....