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  • Originally posted by drenlou View Post
    You know wut i agree to a certain extent,but broner overtrained,and not making excuses for cloner cuz i dislike the guy immensley,but i think if he would of aknowledged the threat maidana really was and started training camp a month earlier it would of been a closer fight,i said to alot of people who were praising cloner as the next big thing to floyd,that he needef to win this fight convinsly to even be considered a great fighter,today he proved he was never nothing more then a very good copy of floyd...nothing more nothing less
    He's not even a good copy of Floyd. The only thing they share in boxing skills is the shoulder roll.

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    • Originally posted by Hitman88 View Post
      1st off..this thread is supposed to be about a maidana vs broner rematch..but for some reason I knew some numb-nutt would throw mayweather's name in the mix. The problem w/ certain sports "fanatics" is that they place their love/like for a certain athlete or team ahead of sound reasoning and actuality. Anybody who thinks Floyd has "ducked" pac is delusional..No more so than manny has "ducked" Floyd . Both sides/camps have done their fair share to negate negotiations so there's no need to blame one w/out the other. I've said this before and I will reiterate...What slick..counter punching boxer (on top of his game) has manny beaten??? He has NEVER been able to clearly best marquez and although the Bradley decision has been highly contested, it was at least close enough for the judges to 'get it right' or 'get it wrong' as some lament. Love or hate mayweather jr..He IS the best pure boxer...I repeat PURE boxer the sport has seen in the past 2 decades and based on the difficulties pac has w/ foot / hand speed, excellent counter punchers..How can anyone possibly fig he'd be a lock to defeat mayweather who has better defense...better timing & hand speed and is a better counter puncher than Bradley or marquez....Has nothing to do w/ liking the man..Its merely fact.

      And for all that ducking and hand picking talk...Any fighter in the top 5 p4p who is also a ppv draw picks who he wants to fight. It is what it is..there's a reason why pac & his camp opted to fight rios after negotiations w/ marquez & Bradley fell thru b/c they wanted to fight ea other. You honestly think his promoter and his camp didn't think he'd look good against a one dimensional fighter like rios...Come on now. There's also a reason why he wouldn't fight cotto at the 154 lb jr ww limit instead offering to fight at 150. Don't scream on just money for handpicking fights. Plenty others top ranked fighters w/ ppv appeal do the same ish.
      I dont give a **** rookie,you bit on the line of my setup,that proves yor nothing but a fanboy,i read the first paragraph and dismiss you as a poster with any relevance.....SHOULDNT Of TOOK THE BAIT SON!!!

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      • Originally posted by turnedup View Post
        Anyone notice Al Haymon was there for the Leo Santa Cruz fight but left when Thurman hit the ring? I was like ohhhh shhhh Al Haymon left his mansion in the clouds to chill and watch a fight..
        Really? I dont even know how Al Haymon looks, have never seen the guy!
        I knew maidana would win the fight but im suprised it went the distance.

        But come on guys, this fight has nothing to do with Mayweather vs. Pacquiao! Different fighters, different levels!
        Last edited by Tobi.G; 12-15-2013, 02:45 AM.

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        • We know who got humped tonight, go for MW! Someone worth your while.

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          • Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
            He's not even a good copy of Floyd. The only thing they share in boxing skills is the shoulder roll.
            Better copy then wut shane mosely would have done for de la hoya when they fought.....broner would have got de la hoya more prepared for mayweather then mosely....imo

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            • Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
              No fighter detoured Maidana from throwing. I just don't think Broner had the right gameplan. That being said, he should go down to 140. In the ring, he looked smaller than Paulie and Chino. He is a small welterweight. But if he continues to fight at 147, he should be using his feet more.
              That's where I think you're missing the boat a lil my man. AB can't fight going backwards. That was evident in the Ponce fight. He has two options with Chino. He can stay in the pocket and make Chino miss and make him pay. Problem is, he's not good enough defensively to consistantly make Chino miss in close quarters. Option number would be go Margarito and walk Chino down, which is what he had his most success doing. Problem is% he doesn't have the chin, especially a bugger guy that's a good puncher to consistantly take the shots he's gonna take going that route.

              In a nutshell, to be successful against bigger and stronger guys, you have to be great at something. Floyd is great defensively. So he's capable of making the bigger guys miss consistantly. Pacquiao was able to carry his speed and power with him up the scales. Which makes him a complete nightmare for bigger fighters. AB is very good. He's good but not great defensively. He's fast, but doesn't have elite speed. He can punch, but doesn't have special power. So at the end of the day, AB isn't gonna make a living fighting bigger guys. He needs to take his ass back to 35. He needs to cut all the celebrity **** short. And he needs to start building a real resume instead of trying to manufacture events with cute storylines.

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              • Originally posted by drenlou View Post
                You know wut i agree to a certain extent,but broner overtrained,and not making excuses for cloner cuz i dislike the guy immensley,but i think if he would of aknowledged the threat maidana really was and started training camp a month earlier it would of been a closer fight,i said to alot of people who were praising cloner as the next big thing to floyd,that he needef to win this fight convinsly to even be considered a great fighter,today he proved he was never nothing more then a very good copy of floyd...nothing more nothing less
                I think even if Broner had a great training camp, he would've still lost with that gameplan. Because of his lack of size and punching power at 147, his flat-footed defense was the wrong approach.

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                • Hm.

                  Originally posted by drenlou View Post
                  If no rematch i gurantee mayweather will pull a chicken **** move and fight maidana...he will clearly duck pacquaio again...yeah i said it......PACQUAIOOIOOOOOO

                  Personally I wouldn't mind to see Floyd fight Maidana. I think he'll do a lot better then Canelo, Robert, and way better then Khan.

                  Why not make a Mayweather-Maidana if the Pacquiao fight is not going to happen? I think Maidana posses a big enough threat. I mean honestly it would be interesting. I say Maidana fans as well in that fight as Cotto did with Mayweather if not better.

                  Thurman-Maidana is a great fight, but I don't feel like Keith Thurman deserves it quite yet. Maidana's fought everyone.

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                  • Originally posted by drenlou View Post
                    Better copy then wut shane mosely would have done for de la hoya when they fought.....broner would have got de la hoya more prepared for mayweather then mosely....imo
                    broner needs to work on a lot! he sparred at mayweathers gym a lot so i figured he picked some things up and fighting paulie was a good test for 147 but he should of took one or two more fights against lower level guys but he felt forced to take a huge punchers challenge and failed badly, none of the things he pulled vs light punchers worked. and it shows Floyd really has this **** mastered and knows what to do and when to do it. broner was far to gassed for his own good, it came crashing down quickly

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                    • I have rarely been so happy to be wrong. Marcos beat Broner ******ed and showed how limited he really is. What a night for boxing!!!

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