Comments Thread For: Brandon Rios Takes Another Hit With Failed Drug Test

[liuj88]

Incorrect. USADA makes fighters sign legally that they will abide to sanctions that USADA imposes upon them. That's why when there are positives, some athletes if they dispute, end up going to court over the matter.

And USADA takes the matter up with the governing bodies of the respective sport to make sure the sanction is enforced.

VADA does not do this, and they do not want to sanction athletes. No matter the organization, whether it be NSAC, VADA, and/or USADA, there are always unique advantages and disadvantages.

Please provide evidence/documentation that USADA *itself* imposes the sanctions.

My impression is that it's the sports' governing bodies and athletic commissions that choose whether or not to accept USADA's test results that actually have the authority to impose the sanctions. If Mexico doesn't accept USADA's "authority", nothing will stop it from approving a sporting event that would be otherwise blocked somewhere else.

Therefore, for example, if the Nevada Athletic Commission accepts VADA's (or USADA's, or anyone else's) tests/protocols, it can, within its jurisdiction, penalize/suspend the failed athlete.

[liuj88]

He may have kept his purse (USADA doesn't do fines, just sanctions like suspensions, bans, etc). Morales received a 2-year suspension in the end. So as far as the United States goes, Morales can't fight until that time expires. He might be able to fight in Mexico or another country (maybe).

http://www.usada.org/sanctions

Your linked web page does not indicate which governing body has imposed the sanctions on the listed athletes. In fact, here is the description under "Sanctions", at the top of the page:

"Below is a listing of athletes that have received a sanction for a doping violation under the athlete’s international federation rules and/or the USOC Anti-Doping Policies." (emphases mine)

Nowhere did I see that USADA *itself* imposed the sanctions. As far as I can tell, USADA's responsibility is to catch and report violations. Just like VADA.

It is up to the sports' governing bodies whether or not to accept as valid the testing organizations' protocols/test results, whether or not to punish the athletes based on "bad" test results, and to what extent. I think Margaret Goodman of VADA is upfront about it, while USADA is vague. Is the latter being given more credit than it deserves?

[radioraheem]

Please provide evidence/documentation that USADA *itself* imposes the sanctions.

My impression is that it's the sports' governing bodies and athletic commissions that choose whether or not to accept USADA's test results that actually have the authority to impose the sanctions. If Mexico doesn't accept USADA's "authority", nothing will stop it from approving a sporting event that would be otherwise blocked somewhere else.

Therefore, for example, if the Nevada Athletic Commission accepts VADA's (or USADA's, or anyone else's) tests/protocols, it can, within its jurisdiction, penalize/suspend the failed athlete.

The impression you are describing applies to VADA. VADA only releases results to the governing bodies, and the governing bodies decide whether to accept the results and sanction the athletes.

USADA is different in that they themselves decide the sanction! And they make athletes abide to this legally when they sign USADA contracts. And then take it further to make sure the governing bodies honor the sanction as well. That is also why whenever you see athletes trying to dispute USADA's ruling, it is always dealt with in court. Never dealt with through the governing bodies.

It is also why Lance Armstrong fought tried to fight USADA tooth and nail. It is also why athletes cut snitch 'deals' directly with USADA. If USADA was really powerless, that couldn't and wouldn't happen. It's just an example.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

PAC is lucky he is not on that juice, good move to get rid of ariza he would have failed this drug test. This only proves that PAC was a cheat

Why would Pac need to shed weight, he never makes the 147 lb limit? Moron.

If Rios had this to mask a steroid. Then **** steroid that was from Ariza couldn't even dent or win a round against someone who was put to sleep for 3 minutes.

Flommoe logic is the better than caffeine I tell you.

[-Makunouchi-]

So yet again it is VADA that catches a fighter...........anyone still wondering why certain promoters avoid using them?

Never said it better..

Great post

[Khalid X]

I have worked with Brandon many times as a nutritionist. He has poor self-image and refuses to even take his shirt off without Hydroxycut. Please understand that the only way he would enter the ring is with this supplement.

We have worked to remove all issues of US Weekly and People magazine from his house, but it is hard. I have found him up late at night catching up on "who wore it best?" and "guess whose cellulite this is?". We are working to explain to Brandon that he is beautiful in his own right, even if he is a little pudgy.

Please be kind, he is a sensitive man. Specifically, please don't mention anything about his upper thighs. He is very insecure.

Thank you all.

I almost died reading this.....lol

[Bretty Poy32]

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[straightleft]

I would put my life on PAC took same stuff but arum new who to pay off to get away with it...that's why he was never caught and now he doesn't ko anyone since allegation how dum are these *******

You smell like a fkoydiot alt many miles away. Your boy failed his own tests 3 times on 3 occassions. Pac not even one specially the VADA who scared the hell out of Floyd.

[Furn]

An Aussie rules player got a 2 year ban from WADA for testing positive to DMAA.

Aren't boxing commissions signatories to WADA ?

[Furn]

Please provide evidence/documentation that USADA *itself* imposes the sanctions.

My impression is that it's the sports' governing bodies and athletic commissions that choose whether or not to accept USADA's test results that actually have the authority to impose the sanctions. If Mexico doesn't accept USADA's "authority", nothing will stop it from approving a sporting event that would be otherwise blocked somewhere else.

Therefore, for example, if the Nevada Athletic Commission accepts VADA's (or USADA's, or anyone else's) tests/protocols, it can, within its jurisdiction, penalize/suspend the failed athlete.

The sports body decides the ban but WADA or the local version can appeal it. Only if the sporting body is signed up to the WADA code though.

For example

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-12-05/saad-ban-appealed