Would Floyd actually outbox Rigondeaux p4p?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Nobody is claiming Narvaez (try to spell his name correctly) is one of Donaire's great wins, but on that note Narvaez is a MUCH greaters fighter than Hernandez.

15 defenses at flyweight
8 defenses at super-flyweight, and still going.

Throw in Bronze and Silver medals at the World Amateur Championships, and it really not disputable that Narvaez is much more skilled, and much more accomplished.

We will have to disagree about that,, Narvaez has never been in the ring with elite caliber fighters at the pro level except for donaire,, I dont care about how many title defenses he has,
What are his top wins???????

[!! Shawn]

Not trying to say one guy is better than another,,just pointing out the fact that floyd has a ton of high caliber wins, genero being one of them, while Rigo has 1 big win over donaire

Genero was a good fighter, and i think alot are trying to rewrite history,, if he was so bad, then how come he only lost to the absolute best guys around in floyd and oscar

It would be like saying hatton's win over kosta tsyzu means nothing, kosta was old and never fought again,,,

To be the man you got to beat the man, and floyd was the guy to dethrone genaro,, plain and simple

It would be like if donaire never scores another big win in boxing and quits, it doesnt mean that Rigo's win over him is any less impressive

Actually wouldn't that be OSCAR that was the man to dethrone Hernandez?

Hernandez was an easy coming up title defense opponent for oscar. No idea how you are trying to spin a paper titlist with a couple meaningless defenses against limited opposition into a great fighter.

Lets not pretend he was anything other than a hand pick title for Floyd by Bob Arum.

[!! Shawn]

We will have to disagree about that,, Narvaez has never been in the ring with elite caliber fighters at the pro level except for donaire,, I dont care about how many title defenses he has,
What are his top wins???????

Cong****, you just described hernandez, and he lost both times he was in the ring with anyone with a pulse as well.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Actually wouldn't that be OSCAR that was the man to dethrone Hernandez?

Hernandez was an easy coming up title defense opponent for oscar. No idea how you are trying to spin a paper titlist with a couple meaningless defenses against limited opposition into a great fighter.

Lets not pretend he was anything other than a hand pick title for Floyd by Bob Arum.

Oscar didnt dethrone him at 130, it was 135, nobody had beaten the guy at 130 til floyd did it,, and genaro is a better fighter than your giving credit to. Yes he may have been at the end of the road, but he was still the champ and unbeaten at 130 and it was a great win for floyd being he was less than 2 years deep in the pro game,,
Much better win than Rigo beating Ramos for his first belt,,

And genero is a HOFer, so im not the only one that thinks he was a good fighter

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Cong****, you just described hernandez, and he lost both times he was in the ring with anyone with a pulse as well.

Look at his resume again,,, there are some good wins for the guy, and floyd and oscar are levels above donaire

Genaro's overall career is much better than navreaz

[!! Shawn]

Oscar didnt dethrone him at 130, it was 135, nobody had beaten the guy at 130 til floyd did it,, and genaro is a better fighter than your giving credit to. Yes he may have been at the end of the road, but he was still the champ and unbeaten at 130 and it was a great win for floyd being he was less than 2 years deep in the pro game,,
Much better win than Rigo beating Ramos for his first belt,,

And genero is a HOFer, so im not the only one that thinks he was a good fighter

Narvaez will also be in the HOF, whats your point?

[rr00676]

Donaire was a superior fighter and had a superior resume than Corrales had. There is no legitimate argument that can be made otherwise.

^^^
This....

Reminds me of Skip Bayless asking Stephen A. Smith "...where is the Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, the George Foreman?" and Smith sits up confidently and replies "Diego Corrales"....I almost died.

Does any one really think that a 122 lb Corrales wouldnt get blasted by Rigo?

[!! Shawn]

Look at his resume again,,, there are some good wins for the guy, and floyd and oscar are levels above donaire

Genaro's overall career is much better than navreaz

Floyd is a level above Donaire, I'd say hes about equal with Oscar though.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Narvaez will also be in the HOF, whats your point?

He shouldnt be, but your probably right, they put in anyone nowadays. And to be honest, i dont think genaro should be a HOFer either,, i think he was a really good fighter, a great fighter in his day, but nowhere near an ATG or HOF, but i do think he was better than narvaez

^^^
This....

Reminds me of Skip Bayless asking Stephen A. Smith "...where is the Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, the George Foreman?" and Smith sits up confidently and replies "Diego Corrales"....I almost died.

Does any one really think that a 122 lb Corrales wouldnt get blasted by Rigo?

Rigo would probably pick corrales apart, but its no guarantee, Corrales was very competitive vs casamoyer

I think your missing the point,, we were comparing donaire to corrales, and corrales has way better wins vs casamoyer, freitas, garcia, castillo, all prime and all title fights,,
Donaire got undressed the first time he was on that level, and his only top level win was vs vic the first time..

Nobody is trying to claim that corrales would beat rigo, we were talking about donaire's resume vs corrales' resume,, and corrales has clearly the better resume, with wins over casamoyer, castillo, garcia , frietas,,, all in their prime

[!! Shawn]

He shouldnt be, but your probably right, they put in anyone nowadays. And to be honest, i dont think genaro should be a HOFer either,, i think he was a really good fighter, a great fighter in his day, but nowhere near an ATG or HOF, but i do think he was better than narvaez



Rigo would probably pick corrales apart, but its no guarantee, Corrales was very competitive vs casamoyer

I think your missing the point,, we were comparing donaire to corrales, and corrales has way better wins vs casamoyer, freitas, garcia, castillo, all prime and all title fights,,
Donaire got undressed the first time he was on that level, and his only top level win was vs vic the first time..

Nobody is trying to claim that corrales would beat rigo, we were talking about donaire's resume vs corrales' resume,, and corrales has clearly the better resume, with wins over casamoyer, castillo, garcia , frietas,,, all in their prime

over 24 title defenses in his career and you don't think he should be in the hall of fame? Why, because he fights in Argentina?