Would Floyd actually outbox Rigondeaux p4p?

[SCtrojansbaby]

Donaire is no better than Chico, they wee both fearsome punches that were hurting everyone in front of them and large for their classes but they were not able to cope with superior boxes. Donaire was faster sure, but Chico was tougher and had more heart.

Donaire was a superior fighter and had a superior resume than Corrales had. There is no legitimate argument that can be made otherwise.

[!! Shawn]

lol,,, I think thats an overstatement,, Genaro is a HOF caliber fighter that only lost to prime oscar, and prime floyd,, no shame in that,,

Donaire is a really good fighter, but i think he also got alot of hype for beating up smaller guys like arce, naverez, pretty much everyone at 118, Mathebula was about the only guy that could match his size, but had nowhere near the skill level of donaire
IMO donaire would have looked really ordinary if he ever fought christina mijares, that was a fight i always wanted to see, but for some reason his name never gets brought up..

Yes, with great wins like:

Jorge Paez
Jorge Ramirez
Harold Warren
Raul Perez
Yuji Watanabe
Masuaki Takeda

The dude split with an Azumah Nelson that was a shell of himself.

Seriously, I would love to see you explain why Genero Hernandez is better than Nonito Donaire.

Please explain to me how his resume is better, what aspects of his skill set were better, how his intangibles made him clearly superior.

I'll wait.

[SCtrojansbaby]

donaire is better than floyd's recent wins, but Donaire was not as good as a castillo, genaro, corrales

Donaire was a good fighter, but he always needed to be the bigger more athletic guy,,,
I had him top 5 p4p when rigo undressed him, so i do consider that a great win, i just dont think that donaire is as good as the guys i mentioned

And one big win doesnt make you the greatest, Tarver beat p4p #1 jones, but you couldnt say he is better than floyd

lol the fact that you even included Genaro tells me how little you know about boxing. Genaro at his absolute apex was never even a top 30 P4P fighter.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Donaire was a superior fighter and had a superior resume than Corrales had. There is no legitimate argument that can be made otherwise.

corrales had a bunch of great wins,, garcia, casamoyer, castillo are better than any of donaire's wins for the exception of the first vic darchiyan fight

Can you please name all of Donaire's great wins:

And while your at it, you can add all of roy jones great wins between toney and ruiz, since you dodged it in the history section and act like i dont know what im talking about,, still waiting to hear all the ppv events that roy headlines like floyd has

[Sugar Adam Ali]

lol the fact that you even included Genaro tells me how little you know about boxing.

Really,, Genaro was a champ,, had only lost to oscar at 135, but at 130 had never been defeated and made the HOF, but beating him means nothing, but donaire beating up on naverez, mathebula and the japanese guy is so much better

[The Gambler1981]

Donaire was a superior fighter and had a superior resume than Corrales had. There is no legitimate argument that can be made otherwise.

Not at all, Donaire had a solid resume and beat some good guy but that doesn't make him better than Chico who did a bunch of solid work. Fighters make the resume, resumes don't make the fighters

I certainly don't find him any better as a fighter from watching them fight, Donaire and Chico are both very good but flawed fighters who did a bunch of solid work. They are very similar to me, making one out to be vastly superior is to me something you can't make a case for~

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Yes, with great wins like:

Jorge Paez
Jorge Ramirez
Harold Warren
Raul Perez
Yuji Watanabe
Masuaki Takeda

The dude split with an Azumah Nelson that was a shell of himself.

Seriously, I would love to see you explain why Genero Hernandez is better than Nonito Donaire.

Please explain to me how his resume is better, what aspects of his skill set were better, how his intangibles made him clearly superior.

I'll wait.

Not trying to say one guy is better than another,,just pointing out the fact that floyd has a ton of high caliber wins, genero being one of them, while Rigo has 1 big win over donaire

Genero was a good fighter, and i think alot are trying to rewrite history,, if he was so bad, then how come he only lost to the absolute best guys around in floyd and oscar

It would be like saying hatton's win over kosta tsyzu means nothing, kosta was old and never fought again,,,

To be the man you got to beat the man, and floyd was the guy to dethrone genaro,, plain and simple

It would be like if donaire never scores another big win in boxing and quits, it doesnt mean that Rigo's win over him is any less impressive

[SCtrojansbaby]

corrales had a bunch of great wins,, garcia, casamoyer, castillo are better than any of donaire's wins for the exception of the first vic darchiyan fight

Can you please name all of Donaire's great wins:

And while your at it, you can add all of roy jones great wins between toney and ruiz, since you dodged it in the history section and act like i dont know what im talking about,, still waiting to hear all the ppv events that roy headlines like floyd has

The Vic and Montiel wins are better than any of Corrales wins especially when you consider how he won them. His wins vs Nishioka Mthalane and Navarez are are as good or better than Garcia and Manfredy(the fights that made Corrales top 10 P4P leading up the the Floyd fight)

As for Roy I don't have the patience to even address this completely(You probable think Genaro is better than guys like Gonzalez and Castro LMAO) but who gives a crap about big PPV event that has nothing to do with the caliber of a fighter's resume.

[!! Shawn]

Really,, Genaro was a champ,, had only lost to oscar at 135, but at 130 had never been defeated and made the HOF, but beating him means nothing, but donaire beating up on naverez, mathebula and the japanese guy is so much better

Nobody is claiming Narvaez (try to spell his name correctly) is one of Donaire's great wins, but on that note Narvaez is a MUCH greaters fighter than Hernandez.

15 defenses at flyweight
8 defenses at super-flyweight, and still going.

Throw in Bronze and Silver medals at the World Amateur Championships, and it really not disputable that Narvaez is much more skilled, and much more accomplished.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

The Vic and Montiel wins are better than any of Corrales wins especially when you consider how he won them. His wins vs Nishioka Mthalane and Navarez are are as good or better than Garcia and Manfredy(the fights that made Corrales top 10 P4P leading up the the Floyd fight)

As for Roy I don't have the patience to even address this completely(You probable think Genaro is better than guys like Gonzalez and Castro LMAO) but who gives a crap about big PPV event that has nothing to do with the caliber of a fighter's resume.

Vic was a great win, no doubt wont argue that,, but montiel, nishioka, mthalane, navarev are not in the same league as beating a prime casamoyer, freitas, and castillo

I dont know how you can argue that,, Freitas, casamoyer, castillo were prime and absolutely better fighters than nishioka, mthalana, navarez, montiel,,, Donaire beat up on smaller guys, corrales beat up on everyone at 130 and 135 except for floyd


And if you think beating gonzalez and castro are great wins,, lmao,, they are decent wins no doubt, good fighters, but not exactly p4p, or hall of fame material, and nowhere near the level of fighters of liles, nunn, benn, eubanks, watson, G-man, collins, michlewski

But then again, you thought tony bellew was future p4p material,,, that is the funniest **** i have ever heard and shows your ability to gauge fighters,,,

Corrales hasnt beaten anyone,, and bellew is p4p ok,, gotcha