Would Floyd actually outbox Rigondeaux p4p?

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  • joesaiditstrue
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    #121
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    Ha now Floyd's ducking Erislandy Lara. Yet no one is asking the true 154 fighter in size, Canelo, to fight him.
    #1 this isn't true at all, lots of people want to see Lara vs Canelo
    #2 Of course people want to see Lara vs Floyd, Floyd has the ****ing WBA SUPER BELT AT 154. Canelo is merely another contender

    Stop being a floyd mayweather nut hugger

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #122
      let me break it down for you

      1. Rigo is a great fighter, clearly top 3 p4p, but he is one dimensional,, he stands his ground and lets guys come to him, he evades shots and counters brutally, and makes guys gunshy ie donaire, agebako

      2. Rigo has yet to prove that he can counter another boxer that doesnt come straight in, I have yet to see rigo on his toes with any type of consistent movement like a hopkins or floyd have done many times

      3. Floyd is much more versatile,, he can lay back and counter, or he can walk guys down, he can fight off the ropes, he can trap guys on ropes, he can move and potshot, or stand his ground and trade in the pocket,, Rigo is fantastic at what he does, but he is not as versatile as floyd.. Look at lara and how he looks vs trout, hearns, vanes, williams, he looks great, but give him movement like molina did, and he looks very ordinary,, same thing with Rigo, give him movement and not a stationary target, and you will see rigo's flaws, namely foot movement when it comes to tracking down guys,, Rigo would not be nearly as dominant when faced with a mover,, Much like how JMM is great counter puncher but struggled badly vs floyd because of the movement, you cant counter what isnt there

      4. Rigo would be more competitive than jmm was vs floyd, but the result would be the same, floyd by decision in a close competitive fight. I just dont see a guy that makes his bread by countering being able to out-counter and land on floyd with any consistency to take 7 rounds or more

      5. I have said for a long time now, that rigo would carve up everyone around 122, but the only guy i see him having problems with is a guy like chemito moreno who can move and potshot,,, Chemito didnt have enough skills to keep mares off him, but rigo wont attack like mares does, and i could see rigo setting up shop in the middle of the ring and chemito working the outside and potshoting his way to victory, or at least a very close loss to rigo.. Now floyd is much better than chemito, so i figure that floyd would be able to pull a 115-113 victory over rigo, in a very boring fight, but floyd would be able to potshot and not get countered as much as a doniare or agebako

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      • comanick
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        #123
        Originally posted by ImStillHere
        The way Trout had them advantages against Lara?
        Yes But Trout does not fight tall.

        Keep in mind i said that floyd knows how to fight tall. Every fighter doesnt know how to best use their advantages. Thats why floyd is #1 because he does all the little things that people dont always notice.

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        • AgainstTheRopes
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          #124
          Mayweather would knock out Rigondeaux P4P

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          • mezoomozaa
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            #125
            Prime Pernell whitaker can't outbox Rigondeaux
            Prime Sugar Ray Leonard can't outbox Rigondeaux
            Prime Mayweather can't outbox Rigondeaux
            Prime Roy Jones Jr. can't outbox Rigondeaux
            Prime Bernard Hopkins can't outbox Rigondeaux
            Prime Muhammed Ali can't outbox Rigondeaux

            I can't think of anybody who can beat Rigondeaux on points, seriously !

            in a championship match :
            120-108
            120-108
            120-108

            O.O

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            • mezoomozaa
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              #126
              Rigondeaux may get knocked out oneday, but he will NEVER lose on points !

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #127
                I'm not sure but he's certainly the better fighter, IMO.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  No, no he wouldn't.

                  Good job its one of these p4p fantasy things though, he won't even fight an inferior version in his own weight class in Lara.

                  Floyd always wins mystical fights.
                  Why do I keep constantly seeing this?

                  You know that's not true.

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                  • Wokingman
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
                    And that's what people fail to realize. His foot speed isn't all that, at all. His upper body movement is, but his foot speed isn't all that.

                    When guys come in on him, he clinches on, and sneaks in body shots. He's not some elusive beast like Rigo. Not even close.
                    LOL..

                    What? Floyd can dance all day in the ring if he wants, his foot speed is the best. His balance is also impeccable which is why he will never fall on his ass like the stiff Rigo. Floyd can have his legs parellel get rocked and his chin and feet will hold up as was seen in the Mosley fight.

                    You saying clinching like its a bad thing, is it because when Rigo did it he was embarrassingly sat down because its a big hole in his game. He better keep dancing on the outside.. Floyd can stand in front of you and not get hit, just stay in defensive mode he not getting hit. Also Floyd with much more fights and more rounds, stats show he gets hit less and hit his opponents more.. Lol he has +35 difference between hit for and hit against.. That's insane!!
                    Last edited by Wokingman; 12-09-2013, 04:42 PM.

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      I'm not sure but he's certainly the better fighter, IMO.
                      which one are you talking about,,, i cant tell, would love to know your thoughts

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