breaking down this heavyweight era and others: Why today stinks!!

[StarshipTrooper]

What are you basing these fantasy opinions on? Not that it really matters concerning this thread. The depth of an era relies on who fights who, not who you think may or may not win across era's. I've shown contenders and champions fight less often against one another today more than any other era in history that I've analyzed, and I specifically used three (Holmes, Tyson and Louis) who's era's are considered weak. If their era's were weak, what does that make today's era? This isn't about individuals, but what their era's are composed of.

Ps - Joe Louis smokes anyone not named Ali, and he may even beaten him.

I was expecting someone to come in with the "today's fighters are all bionic supermen" argument. Complete bull**** of course but it makes the 20 somethings and younger's wittle feelings feel so much better.

Ps, I ignored the obvious alt.

[SN!PER]

Vitali and Wladimir would knock Louis around the ring like a rag doll.

I know right, they're so big, they are unstoppable because being a giant is what matters most in boxing!

How did a 5'7 Sam Langford destroy so many bigger men?

How did midget Mike Tyson win so much when almost every opponent was taller than him?

How did the little cruiserweight Evander Holyfield move to heavyweight and beat up so many bigger guys?

How did little Lamon Brewster knockout Wladimir?

How did little Oliver McCall knockout Lennox Lewis?

Lucky punches! It was all luck.

[beez721]

I know right, they're so big, they are unstoppable because being a giant is what matters most in boxing!

How did a 5'7 Sam Langford destroy so many bigger men?

How did midget Mike Tyson win so much when almost every opponent was taller than him?

How did the little cruiserweight Evander Holyfield move to heavyweight and beat up so many bigger guys?

How did little Lamon Brewster knockout Wladimir?

How did little Oliver McCall knockout Lennox Lewis?

Lucky punches! It was all luck.

yea,,the size thing does get ridiculously overrated on here

[JAB5239]

Ezzard Charles fought 18 top 10 heavyweights. He fought Ray 2x, Bivins 2x, Baksi, Maxim, Walcott 4x, Valentino, Louis 2x, Oma, Layne, Satterfield, and Marciano 2x.

[JAB5239]

List updated with the addition of Ezzard Charles.

Joe Louis 19
Evander Holyfield 18
Ezzard Charles 18
Floyd Patterson 16
Larry Holmes 15
Lennox Lewis 14
Joe Frazier 12
Mike Tyson 12
Primo Carnera 12
George Foreman 11
Sonny Liston 10
Wladimir Klitschko 10
Rocky Marciano 9
Vittles Klitschko 6

[JAB5239]

Joe Walcott fought 17 top ten fighters. He fought Ettore, Simon, Bakso, Maxim 3x, Ray 2x, Louis 2x, Charles 4x, Layne and Marciano 2x.

[JAB5239]

List updated with the addition of Jersey Joe Walcott.

Joe Louis 19
Evander Holyfield 18
Ezzard Charles 18
Jersey Joe Walcott 17
Floyd Patterson 16
Larry Holmes 15
Lennox Lewis 14
Joe Frazier 12
Mike Tyson 12
Primo Carnera 12
George Foreman 11
Sonny Liston 10
Wladimir Klitschko 10
Rocky Marciano 9
Vittles Klitschko 6

[JAB5239]

James Braddock fought 5 top 10 contenders at heavyweight. He fought Farr, Louis, Baer, Lasky and Schaff.

[JAB5239]

List updated with the addition of James Braddock.

Joe Louis 19
Evander Holyfield 18
Ezzard Charles 18
Jersey Joe Walcott 17
Floyd Patterson 16
Larry Holmes 15
Lennox Lewis 14
Joe Frazier 12
Mike Tyson 12
Primo Carnera 12
George Foreman 11
Sonny Liston 10
Wladimir Klitschko 10
Rocky Marciano 9
Vittles Klitschko 6
James Braddock 5

[JAB5239]

Muhammad Ali fought 27 top 10 rated fighters. He fought Liston 2x, Patterson 2x, Chuvalo, Terrell, Quarry 2x, Bonavena, Frazier 3x, Ellis, Foster, Norton 3x, Foreman, Wepner, Lyle, Bugner, Young, Evangelista, Shavers, Spinks, Holmes and Berbick.