Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Rios: Taking a Look at The PPV Numbers

[bojangles1987]

Come on Bojangles don't cosign that BS. It is not rational to believe the ppv was set up not to be a success. TR announced Manny was guranteed $18 mil and expected him to make $30 mil. WHat ppv is designed to be both unsuccessful and net the a-side an addional amount that high?

What is interesting to me is the significant drop off following manny losing. A lot of posters say floyd's ppv sales will drop as soon as he loses because a good percentage of buys are made just to see him lose.

Manny lost and his ppv sales plummeted somewhere betwen 700-800k units from the JMM fight. That is ASTOUNDING. There is no way TR figured this would happen.

I don't know if it was a success or not, and don't particularly care. It's Pacquiao off a loss against Brandon Rios, with a crap undercard, in China. How many buys could Top Rank have expected?

[Deevel916]

You actually are tryiong to make this a record for most ppv's sold by guys coming off losses. that is pathetic even for you.

When your previous fight sells 1 mil ppv's and your next sells under 475k-its not an achievement no matter how you try and spin it.

The estimates for floyd ghost are 890k -1 mil units sold.

Do u apply the same standard for floyd when he did 2.4mil against Oscar then in his very next fight against Hatton he did 1.6mil less?

[-Makunouchi-]

Lol at guys looking at it as a bad ppv numbers,

I'll tell u this, arum is a silly old mother****er and he knows boxing biz more than anyone alive, he knew that the numbers would not be huge since its a test run but actually it was brilliant, he never lose money coz the venetian already paid the event, so the computatation will always gain.

What it the event did for top rank is

It introduced boxing in the asian market, wherein the next ppv event of top rank will be available in ppv in china, if the revenue from the phil and china are also computed as ppv buys. Imagine how much would hbo's profits would be in the next fight. That's what you call investing.

If the asian market platform would be perfected, then imagine what revenue it would bring tr. No wonder gbp is also planning to invade the asian market with khan in dubai? Coz they ****ing know that it's huge money than focusing mainly in the u.s.

[Triumph 916]

How did Floyd did with Guerrero again?

Oh and we all know Canelo and his fan base is what brought those numbers in his latest fight, just like DLH did.

Let's say Canelo & ODLH fan base brought those numbers in...why didn't Pac do better numbers with Cotto, Oscar, JMM? Why is it that when those guys fight Floyd everybody seems to tune in...I don't understand how people can't see that Mayweather is a big factor in those numbers...if not then he would consistently out sell Pac vs common opponents. If you are a true fan of Pac then when he fights it would never be a secret, you would know, so talking about promotion & overseas stuff is crap...

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know if it was a success or not, and don't particularly care. It's Pacquiao off a loss against Brandon Rios, with a crap undercard, in China. How many buys could Top Rank have expected?

They expected enough buys to get manny an additional $12 mil. We know they didn't expect a sales drop off between 700-800k units.

Its fine if you don't care. I'm just asking that you not cosign that Bungalows BS.

Do u apply the same standard for floyd when he did 2.4mil against Oscar then in his very next fight against Hatton he did 1.6mil less?

No. Same way I didn't for manny going from odh to hatton or manny going from 1.25 with cotto to 700-750k with Clottey.

Did you feel floyd/hatton was a flop?

[FrankieBruno]

Pacman shud have gone with goldenboy

[lutenco]

Soooo by your logic, Garcia vs Matthysse would do $1.5 mill ppv buys? or $1 million? Highly unlikely, the fight wouldn't even be on ppv if it weren't for Mayweather/Canelo. Pac just lost some shine, why do you think his team is crying for a Maywether fight finally.....

Soooooo by my logic PACQUIAO that came from two losses fighting another one from a loss (RIOS) with poor undercards like GRADOVICH-DIB,etc...made great numbers;watch the undercards of JUNIOR's fights and if you have some brain you'll finally understand,MANNY does these numbers only with the main event. Nobody of MANNY's team is crying for JUNIOR because they are all smiling about a possible JUNIOR vs KHAN fight!!!aahahahahahhahaahahah

[littlemac]

That 40mill is looking better and better as each day goes by

[Deevel916]

They expected enough buys to get manny an additional $12 mil. We know they didn't expect a sales drop off between 700-800k units.

Its fine if you don't care. I'm just asking that you not cosign that Bungalows BS.



No. Same way I didn't for manny going from odh to hatton or manny going from 1.25 with cotto to 700-750k with Clottey.

Did you feel floyd/hatton was a flop?

well by your standards yes. U say that going from 1 mil to 400 - 500k is no achievement. Yet floyd went from 2.4 mil to 850k in his very next fight. Mind u both floyd and Hatton were both undefeated and the fight had crazy buzz. To drop off 1.6mil PPV buys from 1 fight to the next is much worse than dropping 500k buys especially when you're coming off of 2 "official" losses while your opponent is coming off a loss himself. Also hatton was a much bigger draw with a much bigger following than Rios by far.

Rumor has it that Guerrero/floyd did anywhere from 700 - 900k. In Floyds very next fight he did 2.2mil with Canelo. Hmmmm. Wonder why?

[Frank Ducketts]

Manny Pacquiao’s ring return served its purpose only in that it put the former eight-division champion back in the win column for the first time in more than two years.

Beyond that, his near-shutout of Brandon Rios may wind up having done more harm than good.

Speculation continues to run rampant over how well – or poor – the November 23 pay-per- view event drew, airing live from CotaiArena at the Venetian Macao in Macau, China. Reports from Top Rank’s offices suggest figures in the vicinity of 500,000 units sold, which – even if accurate – would make for his lowest pay-per-view output since his June ’08 lightweight belt winning effort over David Diaz. [Click Here To Read More]

Thanks Pop. Been looking for something on this.

I remember when 500,000 used to be a good number.