Who wins hagler vs bhop prime vs prime mw

[dontrell]

Extremely, for as long as I've been watching boxing I would say James Toney is the only fighter I can say applied himself on the inside better than Hopkins but that's about it. Not Ward nor Mayweather in my opinion and those guys are good.

For as long as you've been watching boxing? You think Hopkins has a better inside game than Duran/Joe Frazier/Tyson/Chavez, etc?

I don't know about that.

Being technically good on the inside is great and all, but against Hagler, you're facing another man that is great on the inside with the ferocity to really hurt you.

[dontrell]

Yea in the last few seconds he landed one right that appeared to stun Hops. Doesn't change the fact that the previous six rounds (and for much of the 12th), he struggled to lay a glove on him.

I don't know if we watched the same fight. Hopkins was "dancing", and was getting trapped on the ropes on numerous occasions. If that had been Hagler, I think he gets hurt.

[RubenSonny]

Hopkins all the way, unlike a very good percentage of the board, I actually remember prime Hopkins.

What does that even mean? People on this board are far more familiar with Hopkins than Hagler, that's just a ****** comment to make.

So was Hopkins, judging by what I've seen from both I would actually say Hopkins was better on the inside.

He definitely wasn't better on the inside.

Extremely, for as long as I've been watching boxing I would say James Toney is the only fighter I can say applied himself on the inside better than Hopkins but that's about it. Not Ward nor Mayweather in my opinion and those guys are good.

Toney is far better on the inside than Hopkins it's not even close, Hopkins doesn't inflict much damage compared to others on the inside. If Hopkins is the second best inside fighter you have seen you haven't watched much boxing tbh.

[Ray Corso]

Hagler is an ATG at Middleweight, Hopkins isn't! That doesn't guarentee a win but I like the odds that Hagler does so many things better than Hopkins.
Mainly punching in combination when afforded the opportunity because hopkins would run.
I don't hold Hopkins high as a middleweight as others do. When he steps up in competition he looses!
Roy Jones
Jermain Taylor
Calzaghe......are fighters that were equal or step ups and he lost!
Glen Johnson was a big win at the time and then loosing to Chad Dawson with a wc and a loss who all of a sudden is down graded after he fell short.
If you want to consider beating guys who were welters aty their best an accomplishment thats fine!
Leonard winning over Hagler was a calculated calander plan by Leonard who was challenged by Hagler for years but wasn't accepted until Hagler was beyond his prime!
If you look at Hopkins early career he fought some of the worst trail horses that could be found! I know, I was there and handled a few for the matchmakers!

Bernard is a thinking boxer who carries out his plan to perfection but back in the middleweight days is when the smoke screens started and its festered into the cherrypicking flovor we see today!
Bernards boxing ability will not carry him past a prime and mean Hagler, sorry that doesn't happen. Look at Haglers career coming up and the men he fought to get to the top. Then look at Bernards and theres NO comparisons!
Hagler by tko late or un.decs. Ray

[dontrell]

Toney is far better on the inside than Hopkins it's not even close, Hopkins doesn't inflict much damage compared to others on the inside. If Hopkins is the second best inside fighter you have seen you haven't watched much boxing tbh.

Yeah, Hopkins is good on the inside, but to call him the second best inside fighter you've ever seen is just mind blowing.

[sugarsmosley]

marvelous marvin the ATG would pulverize B-hop in his prime.

[DAZED 2.0]

I don't know if we watched the same fight. Hopkins was "dancing", and was getting trapped on the ropes on numerous occasions. If that had been Hagler, I think he gets hurt.

I thought Hopkins adjusted pretty well in that fight. And then brutalized him in the rematch. But again, dancing isn't a must to giving Hagler problems. Hopkins could hold his own on the inside, and was a well conditioned fighter. He was also the better defensive fighter. I could easily see him giving Hagler fits off the different looks he utilized.

[Doctor_Tenma]

What does that even mean? People on this board are far more familiar with Hopkins than Hagler, that's just a ****** comment to make.



He definitely wasn't better on the inside.



Toney is far better on the inside than Hopkins it's not even close, Hopkins doesn't inflict much damage compared to others on the inside. If Hopkins is the second best inside fighter you have seen you haven't watched much boxing tbh.

Toney was better, far better is a stretch. I like Hopkins' offense more than Hagler's in close, Hopkins' punches were more compact and his ability to fight in the clinches is even better. Ruben I strongly stand by the bold, when I see the Hopkins comparisons to Ward or even Mayweather to some degree, it gets ridiculous on here, I find that Hopkins was in all around superior fighter than Ward is today. Unlike Ward, Hopkins' inside game didn't entirely consist of locking an opponents arm, his two handed attack in close is one of the best I've ever seen.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yeah, Hopkins is good on the inside, but to call him the second best inside fighter you've ever seen is just mind blowing.

I added for as long as I've been watching, I truly stand by that statement.

[dontrell]

I thought Hopkins adjusted pretty well in that fight. And then brutalized him in the rematch. But again, dancing isn't a must to giving Hagler problems. Hopkins could hold his own on the inside, and was a well conditioned fighter. He was also the better defensive fighter. I could easily see him giving Hagler fits off the different looks he utilized.

Hopkins is a great fighter, and no doubts he would give Hagler fits, but Hagler is a GREAT from the mid range AND on the inside.

I completely understand where people want to say Hopkins could outbox Hagler, but I don't think he can actually do that. The moment, and I mean moment Hopkins was getting his off, that's when Hagler steps it up another notch, and goes in on him, unrelenting.

Of course, that's just my side of the coin. Hell, Hopkins could very well beat Hagler, and I wouldn't even be surprised, but I give the edge to Hagler.