Is there any options that Mayweather has at 147 that are not cherry picks?

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  • jqSide
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    #121
    Floyd should have no problem fighting anyone he wants in the GBP stable at this point. But don't complain if it won't attract a sizable portion of the PPV audience. That's really the bottom line.

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    • Grimgash
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      #122
      Originally posted by MGMGRAND
      Opponents being labeled as a cherry pick so far

      1. Khan
      2. Danny Garcia
      3. Keith Thurman
      4. Devon

      Outside of Manny and Bradley, which im also sure would be labeled cherry picks, any there any opponent he can pick out of this list and not get criticized for ?
      I'd put Bradley as a cherry pick too. Imo outside of Khan nothing wrong with those fights...but Bradley isn't great at WW. He beat Marquez whos an average WW. Went life and death with Ruslan. Got a gift vs Pac.

      Mayweathers issue is he's too good. There isn't anyone near his weight who is near him in skill level....at all.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Grimgash
        I'd put Bradley as a cherry pick too. Imo outside of Khan nothing wrong with those fights...but Bradley isn't great at WW. He beat Marquez whos an average WW. Went life and death with Ruslan. Got a gift vs Pac.

        Mayweathers issue is he's too good. There isn't anyone near his weight who is near him in skill level....at all.
        you just posted that a fighter most experts have as top 3-5 p4p in the world is a cherry pick for floyd. even if he did lose to manny he is still a top 6-8 p4p fighter.

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        • brick wall
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          #124
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Have you ever noticed that the guys who supposedly are ready for that step up never do that well while the guys who people figure had no chance-corley, augustus for example-performed surprisingly well?

          You can't know if a fighter is ready unless they get the fight. SOme thought floyd wasn't ready for Genaro-they were wrong. Some thought Vargas wasn't ready-they were right.

          eh i don't know what you're getting at with those ****** examples.

          wasn't corley floyd's first fight at 140? why do you think he chose to fight corley and not tszyu for his first fight moving up? now apply that to garcia.

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            #125
            Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
            We're comparing Azumah Nelson to Danny Garcia now.
            Are we? Is that what you got from it?

            Maybe it's comparing the situation in weight?

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              #126
              Originally posted by brick wall
              you're overreacting...my post was not just about step up in weight but more importantly the big step up in competition for garcia. he may be ready to move up to welteweight but why make floyd his first fight.

              he's no ready for that level plain and simple ...even his dad said so. if you can't get a sense of that then that's your problem.
              Because having to cut less weight won't be an issue. He didn't look too good at the weigh for his last night anyway.

              His dad didn't say so at all. When did his dad say his son wasn't ready?

              I don't get this idea that Garcia's not ready. He has impressive wins over top level opposition and is the Champ at 140 and very proven and rightfully should be on the P4P list.

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                #127
                Originally posted by brick wall
                eh i don't know what you're getting at with those ****** examples.

                wasn't corley floyd's first fight at 140? why do you think he chose to fight corley and not tszyu for his first fight moving up? now apply that to garcia.
                Maybe Garcia will do better than expected.

                Beause the plan was for him to fight Gatti in AC so he fought his 1st 140lb fight in AC. Kosta had issue that have been documented on NSB before.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by brick wall
                  eh i don't know what you're getting at with those ****** examples.

                  wasn't corley floyd's first fight at 140? why do you think he chose to fight corley and not tszyu for his first fight moving up? now apply that to garcia.
                  How could that fight have happened at that point when he first moved up?

                  And having the shoe on the other foot, when Mayweather moved up from his first weight class to 135 he fought Castillo in his first fight. Now apply that to Garcia.

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                  • brick wall
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Because having to cut less weight won't be an issue. He didn't look too good at the weigh for his last night anyway.

                    His dad didn't say so at all. When did his dad say his son wasn't ready?

                    I don't get this idea that Garcia's not ready. He has impressive wins over top level opposition and is the Champ at 140 and very proven and rightfully should be on the P4P list.

                    angel said it impliedly...there was a thread about it here in nsb.

                    who cares who he fought and beat at 140...we're talking about floyd's level here so i don't know why you keep on repeating that. khan, past primes morales and judah, matthysee...are you really gonna use that as a barometer to argue if he's ready for floyd? and it's not like he dominated judah and matthysee.

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                      #130
                      Danny Garcia, and Devon would be good acceptable fights. Khan is the worst option, its the most meaningless fight he can take. Even fights with Ortiz and Guerrero meant more.

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