Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

[KBRO]

Great post!

Thank you.. glad to see.. not everyone here has a biased agenda.

[KBRO]

Indeed, that guy knows what he's talking about.

Thanks...... this entire forum is mostly anti - Klitschko & for every fan.. there's 20 haters... these are the odds we're dealing with here & if I can help shed some light on what has really transpired in the Klitschko era I've done my part... they all try to make it seem as if you're obsessive when they hate obsessively to the point of not using common sense. These two fighters are the most skilled superheavies ever to lace up boxing gloves & happen to be brothers.. so the fact that these haters on this forum question there ability by questioning there opposition is absolutely non- sensical!

[KBRO]

Lewis nose wasn't broken.

What about Deontay Wilder? When he wins a WBC belt he'll be the most dominant champ ni history going by your logic. right?

Yes... he would... a perfect KO record plus a prestigious WBC belt.. has anyone ever attained such a feat? That means technically he'd be the most dominant.. Vitali Klitschko was a perfect 27-0 27 KO when he lost his WBO belt.. so technically Vitali had the best start ever for a champion.. Wbo MIGHT'VE not been much back then.. but considering what Vitali went on to do.. I'd count it as the most dominant. Vitali to this day is the ONLY heavyweight to hold any part of the 4 major belts while at the time NEVER being taken the distance..



Deontay has a shot & has exceeded Vitali's start with 30 straight stoppages but has been knocked down twice in the process so it's NOT exactly a perfect start.. we'll never know if he can absorb a shot if fighters can't absorb his first & that is what is happening with him regardless of his terrible opposition.. no one's survived past 4 rds..that's very difficult to do no matter how bad your opposition has been as it's never been done before by past sluggers who also started out with stiffs & cans.

[daggum]

i can't believe some whiners are still going on about how vitali lost to lewis. even if he won so what? rahman beat a much better version of lewis. no one calls him the best fighter of the era although his resume sh-its on vitali's. i'll take lewis, sanders, tua, and toney over peter, sanders, adamek and some crumb bums.

[KBRO]

Is that why I ran him out of this thread like I did you in mine?

Don't flatter yourself.. the ONLY way you can run me out is if you were talking sense... then I'd shake your hand.... your anti Klitschko tirades are just that.. yet you disguise it as politically correct analysis when it's anything but except for being agenda driven.

[daggum]

Yes... he would... a perfect KO record plus a prestigious WBC belt.. has anyone ever attained such a feat? That means technically he'd be the most dominant.. Vitali Klitschko was a perfect 27-0 27 KO when he lost his WBO belt.. so technically Vitali had the best start ever for a champion.. Wbo MIGHT'VE not been much back then.. but considering what Vitali went on to do.. I'd count it as the most dominant. Vitali to this day is the ONLY heavyweight to hold any part of the 4 major belts while at the time NEVER being taken the distance..



Deontay has a shot & has exceeded Vitali's start with 30 straight stoppages but has been knocked down twice in the process so it's NOT exactly a perfect start.. we'll never know if he can absorb a shot if fighters can't absorb his first & that is what his happening with him regardless of his terrible opposition.. no one's survived past 4 rds..that's very difficult to do no matter how bad your opposition has been has it's never been done before by past sluggers who also started out with stiffs & cans.

most dominant? vitali didn't even fight a ranked fighter till lennox. what a sad person you are. tyson had all 3 belts and beat the linear champ but yes mr i havent fought a ranked fighter and i have a crappy wbo belt was more dominant and had a better start lol. you are clinging to your made up criteria. do you realize dominant doesn't mean protected?

[JAB5239]

Don't flatter yourself.. the ONLY way you can run me out is if you were talking sense... then I'd shake your hand.... your anti Klitschko tirades are just that.. yet you disguise it as politically correct analysis when it's anything but except for being agenda driven.

I gave you to links with quotes from Lewis proving he was wanting to retire BEFORE the Vits fight. You had no rebuttal and disappeared. Call it whatever you want, but we both know you got no answer.

[KBRO]

most dominant? vitali didn't even fight a ranked fighter till lennox. what a sad person you are. tyson had all 3 belts and beat the linear champ but yes mr i havent fought a ranked fighter and i have a crappy wbo belt was more dominant lol. you are clinging to your made up criteria. do you realize dominant doesn't mean protected?

Chris Byrd was ranked & so were a few other's before Lennox like Donald & Hide was ranked & had the WBO belt....most of Vitali's comp early on wasn't the strongest but if we took most past great's comp early on it's a who's who of nobodies as well... Vitali was the ONLY one to do what he did.. koing 27 straight & Deontay has surpassed it regardless of how week the opposition was so stop singling out Vitali when most other champs started out with least resistance also but couldn't do what he did every time out.

Dominant means dominance regardless of resistance.. the definition NEVER changes.. only your perception of how it was attained.

[JAB5239]

Chris Byrd was ranked & so were a few other's before Lennox like Donald & Hide was ranked & had the WBO belt....most of Vitali's comp early on wasn't the strongest but if we took most past great's comp early on it's a who's who of nobodies as well... Vitali was the ONLY one to do what he did.. koing 27 straight & Deontay has surpassed it regardless of how week the opposition was so stop singling out Vitali when most other champs started out with least resistance also but couldn't do what he did every time out.

Dominant means dominance regardless of resistance.. the definition NEVER changes.. only your perception of how it was attained.

Ive already proved this is BS in my thread breaking everything down fairly. You know, the thread youve been avoiding!

[KBRO]

I gave you to links with quotes from Lewis proving he was wanting to retire BEFORE the Vits fight. You had no rebuttal and disappeared. Call it whatever you want, but we both know you got no answer.

I already gave you an answer for it.. so why would I want to give you another one.... disappeared???? I'm the ONLY one here answering most every rebuttal & as far as your Lewis early retirement inquiries.. you ever stop to consider he gave several different answers depending on his mood or whomever was pressing him for the question... Klitschko ended all doubt that Lewis had about pursuing his boxing career further or not... he also stated he'd give Klitschko a rematch right after the bout & if his eye had healed by then (notice the built- in excuse).. so I wouldn't even take Lewis's words as gospel... only a fool would.