Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

[New England]

Of course Klitchkos are ATGs.

wladimir might crack a couple HW top 10 by the end of it, but there's no way in hell you can call vitali klitschko an all time great. he has no great wins, and lost to the two best fighters he faced.

[A_Jeffrey]

wladimir might crack a couple HW top 10 by the end of it, but there's no way in hell you can call vitali klitschko an all time great. he has no great wins, and lost to the two best fighters he faced.

Tyson also lost to 2 best fighters he faced, Holyfield and Lewis.
Frazier also lost to 2 best fighters he faced, Foreman and Ali.
Holyfield himself lost to Lewis and Bowe.
Only Mayweather never lost, but never fought any of best fighters either lol
but I agree that Vitaly doesn't crack top 10 right now, but he is close. He has solid victories, defeated WBC champion in the first fight after 4 year layoff is (was) very dominant in most of his fight, was never KOed or KDed and only lost by injury in fights that could go either way.

[Weltschmerz]

Define "worst".

In terms of skill, power and general ability, they are up there with anyone really. They are both very well schooled, were both excellent amateurs and keep themselves in impeccable condition.

they are probably some of the worst in terms of entertainment. They are not very entertaining to the general public, which is why none of the biggest TV companies want anything to do with them unless they fight specific fighters and always end up being disappointed anyway. They've never been on PPV, neither in America or in their adopted homeland of Germany.

All in all I think they'll be remembered with a lot of respect, but will not be spoken of in the same sense as guys like Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Holmes and other recent greats.

Well worst in terms of entertainment, many would disagree with you there. Wladimir can be 'boring' at times, but he has perfected his methodical style into a work of art. Vitali is quite a different fighter from Wlad style wise, and I personally find his style entertaining. He always goes toe to toe, isn't afraid to exchange, etc. He's a beautifully technical boxer as well, if you study him closely.

The biggest tv company in Germany, RTL, has made multi millionaire contracts with them, so your argument that tv wants none of them is obviously bull. They're huge stars in Germany and Europe in general.

They will indeed be spoken of in the same sense as the other greats of the past, for decades to come, and they will go down in history for their unique achievements as HW brothers. Most unbiased observers will agree on this, even if they don't particularly like the Klitschkos.

[yoz]

Wladimir is a great champion.

[fight_professor]

Both are good, skilled fighters. They are boring as hell, but there have been much worse guys to win an established HW title.

[New England]

Tyson also lost to 2 best fighters he faced, Holyfield and Lewis.
Frazier also lost to 2 best fighters he faced, Foreman and Ali.
Holyfield himself lost to Lewis and Bowe.
Only Mayweather never lost, but never fought any of best fighters either lol
but I agree that Vitaly doesn't crack top 10 right now, but he is close. He has solid victories, defeated WBC champion in the first fight after 4 year layoff is (was) very dominant in most of his fight, was never KOed or KDed and only lost by injury in fights that could go either way.

joe frazier beat the best fighter he ever faced, which was muhammad ali in '71...


i like vitali, and think he was a monster in his prime (he would beat some of top 10 all time HW,) but his resume just isn't great.

[KBRO]

wladimir might crack a couple HW top 10 by the end of it, but there's no way in hell you can call vitali klitschko an all time great. he has no great wins, and lost to the two best fighters he faced.

Vitali Klitschko is the most dominant champion in heavyweight history.... he's won his fights in the most thorough of fashions.... every boxing intangible of winning a fight from knockouts to winning rounds is unprecedented.... like it or not Vitali Klitschko is statistically the most dominant fighter in boxing history & I challenge anyone to tell me differently.. he's MORE dominant than Mayweather.


So keep on saying the fighter that's been the most superior vs everyone he's ever faced including his two defeats is not an alltime great when he's actually displayed to everyone that if you had to choose one boxer to be outboxed he'd be the LEAST likely choice out of anyone that has ever fought in ANY weight class.. since we're talking heavyweights... he's obviously NOT going to be outboxed in a lower weight class.

& yes EVERYTHING points to the fact H2H Vitali is by far #1 BASED on what we've seen in 47 professional bouts.. taking into account everything from his SIZE & STRENGTH dimensions which is advantageous over 99% of boxers that have ever fought... then take his actual BOXING ability & how's he fought his entire opposition... there's NO one you can logically say can be favored over him.. he has the most in his favor & let's start acknowledging it.

[Daddy T]

should be rephrased from worst to most boring. I think they'd give anybody a challenge, but they,well wlad, anyway are just sooooo damn boring to watch, his last fight was painful to watch.

[Jloro]

they are dominant while in a slow moving division. Better than nothing lol. But their careers are not very entertaining compared to any other ATG's

[Mr.Fantastic]

Heavyweight boxing has been dominated by either us westerners in the US & Britain. Now that it isn't the case, we degrade the greats that aren't giving us a chance. We are just sour g****s cause the brothers are beating everyone. Specially here in the states.