Comments Thread For: Booth: Froch Has Deteriorated, A Return is Ill-Advised

[SP4RTICUS]

so do you think Taylor beat froch then? he dominated him as much as Groves.
Froch was going to win this fight, no doubt. Forget the decision and watch Groves in the last 2 rounds, he was gassed and getting caught big time. How exactly did this so called robbery help froch?

When ever there's a robbery that happens in any fashion during a fight and 99% of the public agree on it, no one should even acknowledge the guy that was awarded the fight as being the winner and it should always be pointed out that the fight was a robbery when ever it gets mentioned. If most people that watched Froch vs Groves feel Groves was winning and feel that the fight got stopped way too soon or by accident, then instead of doing a rematch they should give Groves a shot at Andre Ward, unless he actually prefers a rematch with Froch.

[hitking]

He's foolish, he has no respect for a great fighter who takes on all-comers.

You can call me whatever you want homie. But Carl Froch isn't a great fighter. He's a mediocre talent that over achieved due to toughness and grit, which I respect. When when you lay his resume on the table, its not one of a great fighter. IMO at some point in their career, a "great" fighter is the clear cut best fighter in a division. When has Froch ever achieved that?

And this take-on-all-comers nonsense is just that, nonsense. After the Kessler rematch, he clearly stated that a third fight with a washed up, shot Kessler is a priority over avenging his loss to Ward. He also has refused to make the move to light heavy to challenge his countryman Cleverly, or any one else. Adonis Stevenson was his mandatory. Never got that fight. He thought Grooves was an easy mark and had no problems fulfilling his mandatory then. Froch isn't a ducker and he has fought a lotta top guys in his division. But after the Super Six, he's been very crafty about who he fights and when.

I don't dislike Froch personally. I don't know him. So its impossible for me to dislike him. Most of my "dislike" for Froch is aimmed at his dumbass, delusional fanbase that says ****** **** like "Froch os a great fighter that takes on all comers."

[FrankieBruno]

so do you think Taylor beat froch then? he dominated him as much as Groves.
Froch was going to win this fight, no doubt. Forget the decision and watch Groves in the last 2 rounds, he was gassed and getting caught big time. How exactly did this so called robbery help froch?

No matter if Groves was gassed or not, you cant prove he would have lost, you should use ur talents to win the euro millions instead

fight was stopped for all the wrong reasons and the punters were screwed out as well as both fighters and it brought shame on British boxing - a rematch is a must to restore integrity, there is no reason why it shouldnt happen.

[slimshandy69]

The Dirrell fight was another blatant robbery (Froch won 3-4 rounds tops) and somehow made it out with a Split Decision in his hometown of Nottingham.

many stawart, jim watt, steve bunce, graham Houston, jimmy iowle, Dan Rafael, allan green, Big ragu and even the ring side press row scored it to froch.

I scored it 4 rounds to froch.

So no robbery now **** off.

[hitking]

so do you think Taylor beat froch then? he dominated him as much as Groves.
Froch was going to win this fight, no doubt. Forget the decision and watch Groves in the last 2 rounds, he was gassed and getting caught big time. How exactly did this so called robbery help froch?

I've since watched the fight. And if the condition Grooves was in warrented a stoppage. Froch should have been "rescued" in the first round.

[Weebler I]

You can call me whatever you want homie. But Carl Froch isn't a great fighter. He's a mediocre talent that over achieved due to toughness and grit, which I respect. When when you lay his resume on the table, its not one of a great fighter. IMO at some point in their career, a "great" fighter is the clear cut best fighter in a division. When has Froch ever achieved that?

Terms like talent, toughness, grit don't mean anything in reality, that is mere perception and attempted description. All that really counts is getting the job done in the ring - actions speak louder than empty words.

Froch gets the job done, again and again, against the best, back to back home and away. He entertains while doing it and then asks for more.

No ducking, no vacations, no travel phobia, no fake retirements, no hiding, no silly split demands, no clinching, no running - just the real deal.

And this take-on-all-comers nonsense is just that, nonsense. After the Kessler rematch, he clearly stated that a third fight with a washed up, shot Kessler is a priority over avenging his loss to Ward. He also has refused to make the move to light heavy to challenge his countryman Cleverly, or any one else. Adonis Stevenson was his mandatory. Never got that fight. He thought Grooves was an easy mark and had no problems fulfilling his mandatory then. Froch isn't a ducker and he has fought a lotta top guys in his division. But after the Super Six, he's been very crafty about who he fights and when.

I don't dislike Froch personally. I don't know him. So its impossible for me to dislike him. Most of my "dislike" for Froch is aimmed at his dumbass, delusional fanbase that says ****** **** like "Froch os a great fighter that takes on all comers."

You're going to complain about Froch not fighting an opponent he's already fought, about him not moving up in weight, about him not fighting no-names. Just silliness. His record speaks for itself.

Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham, Johnson, Ward, Bute, Kessler, Groves...next Groves II? Golovkin? Chavez? Ward II?

[GhostBlade]

I would love it if froch doesnt give groves a rematch
Ward doesnt give froch a rematch
Groves gets matched with ward! That would be awesome!

I think this would be the best option and even Groves would agree to this. Froch should really just retire but who knows how this whole situation will play out.

[Alpha & Omega]

Man I am finally glad to see people realize how overrated Froch as always been. He is mediocre at best, I mean to be perfectly honest, the ONLY dominating performance he has had against top competition was the stoppage of Bute. Read it and weep:

Pascal - Fought on even terms and got a UK decision
Taylor - Got dropped, and lost 11.5 of 12 rounds, won with 17 seconds left
Dirrell - Got a UK decision and should have lost
Kessler 1 - Lost a decision
Johnson - Won decision in a highly competitive fight that could have gone either way
Ward - Not only lost, but got utterly schooled and embarrassed
Kessler 2 - Won a competitive decision
Groves - Got dropped, hurt several times and won by a BS ref stoppage.

How can anyone that is not ******ed call him world class seriously? Does that read like the resume of a true elite talent? 3 of those should be losses for him basically. Cmon man he is so slow and untalented its absurd. His chin and toughness is the only reason he can even exist at this level. His skillset is a joke. Mark my word, if he fights Ward again, Groves again, or moves to 175 he is getting stopped in his next fight, you heard it here.

[Weebler I]

Taylor - Got dropped, and lost 11.5 of 12 rounds, won with 17 seconds left

You clearly didn't watch this fight.

Doesn't read like you watched many of the others either.

[AgainstTheRopes]

Rematch with Groves aint happening. Fight Hopkins or retire.