Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Mayweather-Pacquiao in '14

[maguirre]

I don't deny the second "negotiations" happened or that Pacquiao agreed in principle to testing. But saying it isn't the same doing it, and doing it under duress isn't the same as demanding it. Surely you can understand the differences in attitude and why it certainly is a 180, a four year 180. So it leads me back to my original question, if Pacquia now thinks random testing is good for boxing, to the point where HE demands it, why didn't he think so before when the opponent was Mayweather, not Rios? If he simply changed his mind, whzt changed it in your opinion?

He was heard on the local radio (Philippines) while the first negotiations were going on acknowledging the benefit of testing. What he was opposed to was testing on the day of the fight. Whatever was thrown on the negotiating table, it was clearly not his, but of his handlers', ie, cut off dates, etc. Later, he expressed regret over making a huge deal of the fight day testing and had been announcing he will agree to testing after every round, "Because I want to know if Mayweather is really serious about the fight."

[Ham Porter]

So what if floyd lowballed him? If he had accepted 50/50 when offered he wouldn't be facing this.

Floyd got lowballed with ppv by ODH. Kovalev just got double lowballed in England. He won. Canelo got lowballed by floyd. So you can take this alt and shove it up your a$$.

$40 mil, no ppv guaranteed lowballed is better than $18 mil guaranteed with the potential to make $30 mil anyway you cut it. You ever ask your boss for less money? My guess is no.

Now take my balls out of your mouth and stop justifying a man that takes short easy money rather than tough big money. If he doesnt want to fight floyd thats fine. There are others who will gladly will.

Are you seriously this thick or are you so emotionally invested in Mayweather that you'll defend him at every cost? Let me just repeat this once more so even your tiny little brain can comprehend it: Mayweather offered Pacquiao zero percentage of the ppv money to a man who'd consistently generated over a million buy rates in his last three fights. A fight that would have grossed hundreds of millions of dollars in ppv revenue alone, and Pacquiao - a proven and comparable draw to Mayweather - wouldn't have made a single cent out of it.



If you're incapable of understanding why that offer was so ridiculous, why it was nowhere near comparable to Mayweather and Kovalev ( @ this comparison) being low balled by De La Hoya and Warren respectively, there really is no helping you. Seems years of regularly deep throating Floyd has impaired your ability to think with reason and logic.

[LouIE G]

I tend to do that when a mu****a makes sense.

Theres no sense when he says sumone is gonna do sumthing that he absolutely has no idea about....your a bandwagon poster with a bias opinion no room for u on here

[flint]

floyd amyweather runs right through this midget. rios will re-crack that chin and send pacquiao on another trip to the moon

[SaldanaCC]

Dumba**es can go back an fourth bout what happend in the past but this is 2013 bouta be 2014 so imma talk about facts as of now that us as FANS know for sure......
Floyd is STILL #1 p4p ....holds a title at 147 AND 154......hes comeing off a huge win against a BIGGER kid who is one of the best right now also WAS unbeatin......he just broke the all time ppv record AGAIN......
Pac is ranked #8 p4p......has no titles.......and is comeing off a loss which is ALSO ko of the year .....against a guy floyd beat an pac fought 3 times prior......an is now gunna fight a talentless kid who talks better then he boxes from a lower weight division who just lost.....
With those FACTS being said u tell me who needs who more then ever now!

[Duckweather Jr.]

They'd want it in a casino though where the town would generate more revenue.

LOL at getting a limo, getting in and out of those spots took me until about 2:20 am after Mayweather/Cotto to get out of dodge and I wasn't even ********.

Youre overestimating how much a stadium would make badly

Where do you think the 100,000 people will be staying in Las Vegas you moron?

hint: not a caravan park

[Wyvceo]

He was heard on the local radio (Philippines) while the first negotiations were going on acknowledging the benefit of testing. What he was opposed to was testing on the day of the fight. Whatever was thrown on the negotiating table, it was clearly not his, but of his handlers', ie, cut off dates, etc. Later, he expressed regret over making a huge deal of the fight day testing and had been announcing he will agree to testing after every round, "Because I want to know if Mayweather is really serious about the fight."

He was never pro test once mayweather agreed to his ring size glove size request plus 50/50 and 1 mil per lb over it should have never been a discussion on testing mr super Christian this dudes a fraud. My 8 year old has got blood taken and played football same day....anyone who believes his bs should be shot

[flushuppercut]

Oh so Now Arum is ready to cash out Pac..
Floyd wins both ways,as always..he could whip Rios bigtime if Rios gets past Pac only guy with a chance now
is GGG but its a shame, he is a bit to big.

[Jack Napier]

tragic and obvious cashout
went from dying for this fight to dreading it horribly
Floyd ducked Pac until he turned old
but Floyd ducked too long; Pac was eliminated by someone else
he doesn't deserve the KO he'll get over a shot to shit Pac
but if Pac beats Rios, watch Arum throw Pac's corpse in with him
this whole situation sucks

[Mindrapist]

Are you seriously this thick or are you so emotionally invested in Mayweather that you'll defend him at every cost? Let me just repeat this once more so even your tiny little brain can comprehend it: Mayweather offered Pacquiao zero percentage of the ppv money to a man who'd consistently generated over a million buy rates in his last three fights. A fight that would have grossed hundreds of millions of dollars in ppv revenue alone, and Pacquiao - a proven and comparable draw to Mayweather - wouldn't have made a single cent out of it.



If you're incapable of understanding why that offer was so ridiculous, why it was nowhere near comparable to Mayweather and Kovalev ( @ this comparison) being low balled by De La Hoya and Warren respectively, there really is no helping you. Seems years of regularly deep throating Floyd has impaired your ability to think with reason and logic.

Seriously, where do you think the $40m would come from? The gate? Merchandise? Come on, now.

Basic math, bro: PPV accounts for at least 80% of total gross. So he WOULD get all GUARANTEED money -- EVEN BETTER than a cut of PPV, which is a risk.

Keep in mind, if the fight does $200m in PPV revenue (not a sure thing, by a long shot), 50% or more goes to cable and satellite.

5% goes to Showtime. That leaves $90m in PPV revenue. With an extra $40m (assuming 20% of total pot) in revenue streams, that's $130m total.

Now if you include marketing, staffing, insurance, sanctioning fees, paying the undercard, and other variable costs, what do you have? You can easily subtract $10m from that.

That leaves $120m -- and GBP still gotta eat. Assuming 5%, which is actually low, btu for argument's sake, let's run with it. That leaves $114m.

And that's not a sure-fire thing. It could tank and do $20m less, in which case you have $94m.

Then you pay Manny $40m, which has to be FRONTED, which means you have to factor in NPV and DCF (though it won't be that much, but still something to look at)! I'll get back to that.

That leaves $54 million -- money Money wouldn't get paid till the Monday morning after the fight!

To make the deal even sweeter, Manny would get it months before the fight! He would have the full $40m in 72 hours. That's an AWESOME offer for someone with the spending habits of Manny.

What's $40m of $94m? That's right, 43%. Which is higher than the 60/40 spin they were trying to feed the ignorant public. Add in the extra $1.5 Manny would get in interest from getting it upfront (Net Present Value again, for those who are financially literate), and now his cut is suddenly 45%.

Mayweather takes on the financial risk of the event. Therefore they can never do "50/50," unless they do a joint venture without Bob Arum.

With that said, receiving a projected 40-45% MINIMUM cut UPFRONT, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason he should've turned that down -- unless they wanted to continue to do in-house fights and cut shady deals under the table with the various casinos in town.

But that's another discussion for another day.....