Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Mayweather-Pacquiao in '14

[Marvellous1]

What you're asking is irrelevant. Pacquiao didn't refuse extra testing. The cutoff was the issue. Which was hypocritical for the duck when his own testing is marred with cut off issues.

I rephrase what I mentioned earlier. If Pacquiao called your idol's testing bluff, Mayweather would have come up with another excuse not to fight. You're assuming that had Pacquiao called his bluff, Mayweather will say yes. Only thing we can get from it is Mayweather would have been exposed early and none of these discussions would exist. I repeat. Pacquiao made a mistake of not calling the duck's bluff right away.

What I'm asking you is very relevant. We have a boxer that was reluctant to do stringtent blood testing and although agreeing in principle, was happy to carry on without it while many boxers were getting with the program. Then he 180s, starts demanding it, saying that it's: "good for boxing" and you don't see the irony, and feebly try to pass it off as irrelevant instead of answering honestly? I think you're the one with the idol here and can't face up to a simple question because of it. So, why do you think Pacquiao is now demanding testing? Why did it take him four years to realise it's good for boxing?

You're basically saying that "agreeing" to RANDOM testing- only if you know when it's NOT going to happen, or you won't do it, is not the same as refusing random because you don't know when it COULD happen? That's spin at its best!

Once more, stating that Mayweather would've found another excuse if Pacquiao had agreed to the terms on random testing at the time, is only your speculation. Everything was agreed so that would've been very difficult. His behaviour since has been downright childish though.

[mrjoeblive]

Pacquaio refused the testing -- it wasn't about the 'brand'. Originally he refused testing completely. Then later, he began to compromise by requesting cut-off dates, which Mayweather did not want. And when Mayweather tried to compromise with 14-days, that was rejected by Pacquaio. Mayweather didn't even have to compromise, he could have just said NO, go to hell.

The very fact that Team Mayweather made an attempt to compromise also hurts your point in saying that they could have been bluffing. You can argue that Team Mayweather would have killed the fight through other means though (but it's not likely) since even the money (50/50) was agreed upon. And the money usually is the number one deal breaker.

Berto wasn't caught three months before the fight. Peterson was caught very early though.

Radioraheem, pac fans continue to try to change documented history. They sound crazy! To say floyd was scaredso he requested ost is pure deluded thinking. They forget floyd signed his contract but pac didn't. Arum gambled that pacs popularity would allow him to continue to make inhouse fights and make all the money. I cannot remember the last time pac fought a non top rank fighter. They cannot either. And know pac fans were screaming for ost if pac fought jmm again. The pot calling the kettle black. LoL. They have no shame so we can say pac asking for ost is pacs way of ducking jmm since he knocked pac out cold? Pac is really afraid of jmm. And pac fights who ever arum tells him to. So arum never told pac to fight floyd. And pac always do what he's told. Pac would make good money fighting floyd. But arum always made more off in house fights and thats why he never told his son pac, to fight floyd.

[619 southpaw]

What I'm asking you is very relevant. We have a boxer that was reluctant to do stringtent blood testing and although agreeing in principle, was happy to carry on without it while many boxers were getting with the program. Then he 180s, starts demanding it, saying that it's: "good for boxing" and you don't see the irony, and feebly try to pass it off as irrelevant instead of answering honestly? I think you're the one with the idol here and can't face up to a simple question because of it. So, why do you think Pacquiao is now demanding testing? Why did it take him four years to realise it's good for boxing?

You're basically saying that "agreeing" to RANDOM testing- only if you know when it's NOT going to happen, or you won't do it, is not the same as refusing random because you don't know when it COULD happen? That's spin at its best!

Once more, stating that Mayweather would've found another excuse if Pacquiao had agreed to the terms on random testing at the time, is only your speculation. Everything was agreed so that would've been very difficult. His behaviour since has been downright childish though.

you never gonna get a answer marv! they know whats up

[TaurusJ27]

Arum needs to stop smoking Chavez Jr's weed.

[mrjoeblive]

What I'm asking you is very relevant. We have a boxer that was reluctant to do stringtent blood testing and although agreeing in principle, was happy to carry on without it while many boxers were getting with the program. Then he 180s, starts demanding it, saying that it's: "good for boxing" and you don't see the irony, and feebly try to pass it off as irrelevant instead of answering honestly? I think you're the one with the idol here and can't face up to a simple question because of it. So, why do you think Pacquiao is now demanding testing? Why did it take him four years to realise it's good for boxing?

You're basically saying that "agreeing" to RANDOM testing- only if you know when it's NOT going to happen, or you won't do it, is not the same as refusing random because you don't know when it COULD happen? That's spin at its best!

Once more, stating that Mayweather would've found another excuse if Pacquiao had agreed to the terms on random testing at the time, is only your speculation. Everything was agreed so that would've been very difficult. His behaviour since has been downright childish though.

Tell em brother! They want to change history but they cannot as long as we (do our best ) to keep them honest which really seems like a losing battle until floyd ko's the created threat.

[radioraheem]

Radioraheem, pac fans continue to try to change documented history. They sound crazy! To say floyd was scaredso he requested ost is pure deluded thinking. They forget floyd signed his contract but pac didn't. Arum gambled that pacs popularity would allow him to continue to make inhouse fights and make all the money. I cannot remember the last time pac fought a non top rank fighter. They cannot either. And know pac fans were screaming for ost if pac fought jmm again. The pot calling the kettle black. LoL. They have no shame so we can say pac asking for ost is pacs way of ducking jmm since he knocked pac out cold? Pac is really afraid of jmm. And pac fights who ever arum tells him to. So arum never told pac to fight floyd. And pac always do what he's told. Pac would make good money fighting floyd. But arum always made more off in house fights and thats why he never told his son pac, to fight floyd.

It's funny man.

How could Floyd have known that Pacquaio would reject random testing even with a 14-day cut-off? That kinda cut-off sounds extremely reasonable today. Honestly, that was too much of a compromise to offer. And yet, it was rejected.

Imagine if Marquez asked Bradley for a cut-off? They would be screaming. Or if Brandon Rios asked for a cut-off? They'd be going crazy and crucifying Rios.

[Ham Porter]

Compared to DLH he did. The fact is, 50/50 wasn't on the table and he didn't get precious about what he was going to earn. He thought he would win and the big money would come after.

The fact is, 50/50 wasn't on the table because De La Hoya was the substantially bigger draw. He wasn't in a position to negotiate an even greater sum because he wasn't on Oscar's level as far as drawing power was concerned. Pacquiao was on Mayweather's level as a ppv draw, and the numbers proved that. He was in a position to take a cut of the ppv money and only the most bone-headed of simpletons/Mayweather cultists would refute that.

[mrjoeblive]

There were no PPV numbers released.

The reported figure was 2.15 with some counting to go. They did not think the record of 2.44 from floyd vs oscar would be broken.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

I love Pacquiao but at this point, to use a football analogy, isn't this a bit like Ronaldinho announcing that he'd still like to sign for Man United?

[maguirre]

What I'm asking you is very relevant. We have a boxer that was reluctant to do stringtent blood testing and although agreeing in principle, was happy to carry on without it while many boxers were getting with the program. Then he 180s, starts demanding it...

I can only agree with you with the so-called random testing with no cut-off crap had Mayweather's own tests went beyond 14 days, at least. It turned out that it appeared he's also allergic to blood tests during training and close to the fight. He wanted zero cut-off and then had 19 days in the Mosley, 18 day in the Ortiz, then 16 in the Cotto... wtf is that?

(I already admitted Pacman made a mistake of not calling the Mayweather's testing bluff right away.)

Pacquiao turning 180 is irrelevant because, I repeat, Pacman agreed to unlimited urine and three 3 blood tests. Where is the 180 in that? Entirely irrelevant.

That's why I'm asking you if you have any information at all about the exact procedures these so-called extra testing are. Do you have any info how VADA conducts tests? How about USADA? Boxers request testing. That's all we are informed about. We never bother about the details. Do you?