Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Mayweather-Pacquiao in '14

[Marvellous1]

I can only agree with you with the so-called random testing with no cut-off crap had Mayweather's own tests went beyond 14 days, at least. It turned out that it appeared he's also allergic to blood tests during training and close to the fight. He wanted zero cut-off and then had 19 days in the Mosley, 18 day in the Ortiz, then 16 in the Cotto... wtf is that?

(I already admitted Pacman made a mistake of not calling the Mayweather's testing bluff right away.)

Pacquiao turning 180 is irrelevant because, I repeat, Pacman agreed to unlimited urine and three 3 blood tests. Where is the 180 in that? Entirely irrelevant.

That's why I'm asking you if you have any information at all about the exact procedures these so-called extra testing are. Do you have any info how VADA conducts tests? How about USADA? Boxers request testing. That's all we are informed about. We never bother about the details. Do you?

Answered your point. Just becuase the tests happened when they did, doesn't mean they couldn't have happened at any other time. It may well have been the same if Pacquiao had agreed to the terms of random testing. I don't think Mayweather dictates when the tests happen.... or don't. But I'm not privy to testing protocols and neither are you.

I'm going to try this again. Pacquiao may have agreed to something in principle before, but he showed no interest in it off his own back (four years remember? Four years of fights to implement testing). Then all of a sudden HE is the one taking Mayweather's stance. Testing or no fight. That's a hell of a leap. You don't feel the need to ask why, considering Pacquiao's previous position is the reason why the first negotiations failed. That's more like sycophantic behaviour than anything I've posted, seeing as you keep trying to use the term "your idol" on me.

Is it so hard to acknowledge that if Pacquiao believed his line about testing back in 09, we would've had a fight. Either that, or what he's saying now is BS. That depends on why you think he made the change. Why do you think he made the change? I'll put you out of your misery. I think he's su****ious of his loss to Marquez and doesn't want to risk that happening again. I don't have a problem with that. But admitting it means you have to admit he was wrong to refuse over cut offs or whatever reason he did. Would a fighter who believed random testing was good for boxing not participate in it for four years after "agreeing" to it?

[radioraheem]

Mosley had 18 days cut off, Mayweather 19 days. He got 18 day in the Ortiz. He got 15-16 or 14 in the Cotto, but never went beyond 14 days. We have zero info in his last two fights. The pattern is there. This guy will never get tested beyond the 14 days limit. This random crap is fake. Even seven year olds would notice this. Who is he fooling?

That information is from USADA's very own website. And the scheduling shows no cut-offs. Ortiz nor Cotto had an 14, 16, or an 18 day cut off, can you not read? They had no cut offs and were tested up til the day of fight. Or are you choosing to ignore the information and believe your own opinion based on ignorance?

[Public_Enemy]

Mosley had 18 days cut off, Mayweather 19 days. He got 18 day in the Ortiz. He got 15-16 or 14 in the Cotto, but never went beyond 14 days. We have zero info in his last two fights. The pattern is there. This guy will never get tested beyond the 14 days limit. This random crap is fake. Even seven year olds would notice this. Who is he fooling?

The USADA link says Mayweather got tested within 18 days (about 7 days) for the Ortiz fight and then tested on fight night. Are you saying that's false? I'm just trying to get a clear understanding.

[maguirre]

I'm going to try this again. Pacquiao may have agreed to something in principle before, but he showed no interest in it off his own back (four years remember? Four years of fights to implement testing).

If you don't acknowledge that that second negotiation happened, which was right after the May/Mosley fight, then you should stop responding to these posts of mine. It was a huge headline back then, "Pac has agreed to Floyd's testing demand!" That was four years ago. Ross Greenburg himself in the end said, "I don't know why Floyd turned the fight down," and admitted Pacquiao has agreed to Floyd's testing demand. So it's not 180 as you keep insisting.

[chepboxingking]

Get your facts straight..

1. On average Mayweather 1.17 milllion ppv's per event, Pacquaio 1.07 million..difference is $6 million or 100,000 buys..

2. He earned $35 million for Marquez, and if he sells a million ppv's this bought earns $30 million for rios.

3. They fight in the same arena and when they fight the arena is sold out so how does one sell more tickets than the other?

4. Aside of Floyd's undefeated record and his belts there is not much difference in their performance stats since fighting DLH. Certainly not enough star power difference to justify one guy making $120 million and the other guy making $40 million.

They both sell out arenas but there's a huge difference is ticket prices. For example, every time there's a super fight it sells out, but canelo vs may has the record in gateway money. Pac is getting 18mils guarenteed for rios fight, may gets 32mils guarenteed no mattet eho hr fights. There's a reason for that. Whether you pay to see him losr or win, fact is people pay to see May and he sells more, therefore should have the lion share

[maguirre]

The USADA link says Mayweather got tested within 18 days (about 7 days) for the Ortiz fight and then tested on fight night. Are you saying that's false? I'm just trying to get a clear understanding.

Fight night? Are you dreaming? It's a blatant lie.

[radioraheem]

Fight night? Are you dreaming? It's a blatant lie.

[The Big Dunn]

I know this might be difficult for you, but try removing Mayweather's balls out of your mouth and try and look at the bigger picture. When you're offering a proven and legitimate ppv draw absolutely zero percentage of the ppv money - a fight that would have generated hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue - you are effectively low balling him.







Mayweather wasn't in position to accept anything less than "chump change" against De La Hoya. His three previous ppv fights combined barely scratched over the million mark. And he made a good $15 million off of the ppv revenue, so he didn't exactly get short changed in that deal.

So what if floyd lowballed him? If he had accepted 50/50 when offered he wouldn't be facing this.

Floyd got lowballed with ppv by ODH. Kovalev just got double lowballed in England. He won. Canelo got lowballed by floyd. So you can take this alt and shove it up your a$$.

$40 mil, no ppv guaranteed lowballed is better than $18 mil guaranteed with the potential to make $30 mil anyway you cut it. You ever ask your boss for less money? My guess is no.

Now take my balls out of your mouth and stop justifying a man that takes short easy money rather than tough big money. If he doesnt want to fight floyd thats fine. There are others who will gladly will.

[Marvellous1]

If you don't acknowledge that that second negotiation happened, which was right after the May/Mosley fight, then you should stop responding to these posts of mine. It was a huge headline back then, "Pac has agreed to Floyd's testing demand!" That was four years ago. Ross Greenburg himself in the end said, "I don't know why Floyd turned the fight down," and admitted Pacquiao has agreed to Floyd's testing demand. So it's not 180 as you keep insisting.

I don't deny the second "negotiations" happened or that Pacquiao agreed in principle to testing. But saying it isn't the same doing it, and doing it under duress isn't the same as demanding it. Surely you can understand the differences in attitude and why it certainly is a 180, a four year 180. So it leads me back to my original question, if Pacquia now thinks random testing is good for boxing, to the point where HE demands it, why didn't he think so before when the opponent was Mayweather, not Rios? If he simply changed his mind, whzt changed it in your opinion?

[STREET CLEANER]

The last negotiations Pac had a cut that was going to take like 200 days to get healed and the stadium that was going to host the event wasn't finished.

Can believe anything this old bastard has to say. The Pac/Rios fight has no where the buzz that the Floyd/Canelo or even the Garcia/Lucas fight had.

They ar trying everything now to sell the fight. From racial slurs to putting Mayweather as the topic of the conversation when Pac hasn't even fought Rios yet.