Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Mayweather-Pacquiao in '14

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  • Mindrapist
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    #301
    Originally posted by TylerLim
    No you wrote 10,000 words of nonsense.

    Tell me Floyds share on a fight that generates 3m PPV buys?

    I would guess Floyd makes 120 around 3x the flat offer.

    THE LIVE GATE IS A NON FACTOR, PPV BUYS MAKE THE LOOT.

    You fail, you sound like a kid that just did his first year of community college accountancy.

    GTFOH TurboTax

    Let me see you break down the pie in detail. That juvenile talk just shows exactly what you are capable of, intellectually.

    How do you figure Floyd will net $120 AFTER all the expenses are accounted for? I don't think you're capable of doing that. I don't know what that infantile name calling is all about but just prove me wrong.

    FYI -- you have no idea what you're dealing with, I can already tell.

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    • dman663
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      #302
      pacman vs floyd

      I think this fight is basically set. I never heard arum say he is open to this fight since 2009 until now. I think if Manny wins, his next fight is floyd. As you can see Floyd is most likely waiting to announce his next fight based on the outcome of this fight. I may be wrong but that is my take.

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      • PACnPBFsuck
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        #303

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        • twosweethooks
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          #304
          Originally posted by hitking
          Floyd is the consensus P4P King and pretty much the consensus best fighter of his era. Just because a couple obsessive dip****s on internet forums talk about him like a couple *****es doesn't mean he needs "rescuing."
          You're confused Mange , Floyd is the consensus of P4P Ballerina, his emblem is KFC, and he beats his whores, and Ducks Pac. YOU will have to do better than that. You should choose one of the excuses I offered you, instead of C posts like you just did.

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          • jbpanama
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            #305
            Originally posted by Mindrapist
            That stadium thing is an idiotic proposition only those with no business sense would support.

            Any venture has one purpose and one purpose ALONE -- MAXIMIZING SHAREHOLDER WEALTH.

            In layman's terms, that means collecting as much dough as possible. Where do you get the biggest gate? Arum said the stadium would add another $20m to the pot.

            Let's do the math, shall we? (Warning: Ownage coming)

            May-Pac does $20m in gate. So the stadium need to generate an additional $20m for his nonsense to hold water -- PLUS the $7m he says it would cost to build that structure (yeah, right...), which would be amortized over two years, but let's forget about that for a second and keep the equation simple...

            Discounting DCF, NPV, EBIT and the like, for the stadium to be feasible, it must produce at least $50m in gate money. Remember, you're leaving a massive MGM site fee on the table as well.

            100,000 spectators. Not easy to do. But if any fight can, this one will.

            In order to generate that, you need to have an average of $500 per ticket.

            By comparison, MGM Grand you get $1250 per ticket, on average, plus a site fee that
            probably puts the revenue per customer (or, RPU) at $2500.

            So $500 should be easy, right? All good in theory, right? NO!

            Nose-bleed seats would NOT go for that much in a stadium. It would make it nearly impossible to recoup the monies necessary to make the stadium feasible (so whoever that moron was who said it was a reasonable option -- NO! It wasn't. Pay attention.).

            Also, ticket sales could be going slow because so many would be available. Comps. Etc. Another risk.

            At the end of the day, not only would they not be leaving money on the table, it would be a foolish idea. But Arum -- the dude is smart -- understands that most people just see it from the simplistic standpoint that "more money, more people!"

            Finally, by having access to that many people, what do you think happens to closed circuit revenues? They would also get record breaking numbers from that.

            The reason closed circuit works is because people want to see what they can watch in a movie theater for $15-20 but feel like they're close to the action. (Never understood the appeal, TBH.)

            So the less people you have in the arena, the more you can inflate the prices, as history clearly tells you.

            Even without those 85,000 extra people that would come to the stadium, assuming a sellout, if they can't find a ticket, guess where they're going. They're buying PPV. Closed-circuit. Spending money in the bars.

            Do the math: 85,000 fight fans in Vegas willing to buy a ticket. They must pay anywhere from $75-$100. That's over $5m.

            I think I've made my point now. It is what it is. If anyone still supports that stadium theory, no offense, but you must be a freakin' moron.
            When did anyone say Vegas was building a 100,000 seat stadium?

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              #306
              Arum sure knows how to drop the F word at the right time.

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              • jbpanama
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                #307
                Originally posted by dman663
                I think this fight is basically set. I never heard arum say he is open to this fight since 2009 until now. I think if Manny wins, his next fight is floyd. As you can see Floyd is most likely waiting to announce his next fight based on the outcome of this fight. I may be wrong but that is my take.
                All Depends How Pac Looks, if he looks "RIPE", FRAUD jumps to the LINE!!!
                This might be the time Our Hero, has been Waiting for. EXCUSES NO MAS, Ha Ha!!!

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                • al-Xander
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                  #308
                  Originally posted by Cgarcia
                  You gotta be an idiot to constantly claim it's Arum that's blocking the fight.

                  It's not Arum who demanded the strictest testing to one particular boxer in the history of the sport. It's not Arum who said he's going on a long vacation and spend time with his family. Turned out that he spend time with Don King for a month or so, then came back demanding $100 million.

                  It's not Arum who opposed Pacquiao training in his own country. It's not Arum who phoned Pacquiao and offered him zero PPV. It's not Arum who said Arum has to disappear first before the fight happens. It's not Arum who said Pacquiao has to avenge his loses first. It's not Arum who demanded that Pacquiao has to join TMT first. You name it.

                  The guy is scared... he always comes up with excuses not to fight the Pacman.
                  There are lots of idiots in this board.
                  And they're still talking about the tests when it's no longer an issue
                  a long time ago. Mayweather's new demands are Pacquiao has to
                  avenge his loses first and then join TMT so he can rip off Pacquiao.
                  The boring boxer wants all the money as if he fights like Tyson.
                  What a greedy bastard.

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                  • thiefery
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                    #309
                    31 pages long and people still act like nobody would care...

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                    • jbpanama
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                      #310
                      Originally posted by twosweethooks
                      You aren't dumb you know the score, it would be dumb to take 40 when ppv will make 200 million Dollars.

                      JR KNEW PAC wouldn't take it, thats why he didn't go thru the channels of negotiations and simply called Pac on the phone
                      FRAUD called Pac, with an Offer He Knew Pac would Refuse...
                      He made the call to show his Idiot Fans, He really wasen't
                      The Chicken, most Objective Thinking People know He Is!!

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