Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Mayweather-Pacquiao in '14

[way2strong]

I had said for years that this fight would get done like lewis-tyson, meaning it would be a legit champ in floyd (lewis) fighting a huge name but a shell of himself manny (tyson)

Too much money to make, plus bob arum knows that manny is on his last leg,, he needs to cash him out while he still can

huge difference may has no knockout power... it would have to go all 12 rounds

[Holywarrior]

You do realize every casino on planet earth is going to want this event..you do realize these same casino's pay the likes of Britney Spears and Celine Dion upwards of $40 million a year to sing and dance...yet they don't bring the ballers into town. This is the superbowl of boxing bro..every brand, every location, everyone and their mother with a product/brand is going to want in on this. I'll say the event does $50 million or more in brand sponsorship alone. Not counting the easy $150 to $200 million in global ppv buys and not counting gates and merchandise. Anytime this fight has been broken down numbers wise it's come close to $400 million in total gross for the fight.

No way does this fight do 400 million in gross total.

Feel free to link me to the breakdown though as I'd love to be proven wrong as Delahoya/Mayweather didn't come close to 400 million and neither had Delahoya's drawer power.

[way2strong]

$40 mil is now chump change-ok. Yet he never made that EVER and is making $10 mil less for the rios fight.

what is that chumpier change? b1tch change? f@g change?

your name should be way2dumb.

why would he settle for 40m and let may have well over 200m when they were equal draws? people pay to watch floyd lose get that in your head

[Marvellous1]

so is it the testing or the 40m refusal that came after the agreed testing that cancelled the fight? make up your ***ing mind *****s .. pac agreed to testing then fraud came up with a 40m payment plan that didnt include ppv revenue which would have been close to 200m why would manny accept chump change frauds a b1tch his fans know it he threw every excuse he could and even tried to short change manny to insure he didnt have to fight him

Hey, Mayweather himself had to accept the "chump change" to get that DLH fight. It made so much but he took the serious short end. Anyone with an ounce of sense (to go with the fake internet machismo) knows that testing was the issue with the only serious negotiations for this fight. If Pacquiao knew then what he says he knows now, there would've been a fight. I know that 40 million and no PPV is a crap offer. But the same people that say Mayweather should take the fight if he's all abou the money, should say Pacquiao should accept if he's all about the glory and the fans. They're both about ego and it made as much sense to do their own thing and make millions than give ground and fight. It just worked out better for one than the other.

[maguirre]

First off, Hagler's my favourite boxer but I have no idols.

Pacquiao has only paid lip service to more stringent testing until now. Only recently he stated it was "good for boxing". Why has he only just come to this realisation? He might have "agreed" to it, but now he's the one demanding it. If he had that attitude then, we'd have had the fight. Why do you think he made the leap? From talking about it to actually being the one demanding?

I repeat, Pacquiao didn't refuse testing. He agreed to unlimited urine and three blood tests. The cutoff was the issue.

First time I heard about Mayweather asking for test was from a local Detroit news. It summed up what Pacquiao has agreed to and reported that what Pacquiao had agreed to was way above and beyond current testing rules. The cut off was the issue.

Mayweather's tests with Mosley had a 19 day cut off. His fight with Ortiz had 18 days cut off. About 16 days in the Cotto, so there's the pattern. Floyd himself never go beyond 14 days.

I agree with you. Pacman should have called your idol's testing bluff right away.

To me it's not so much about the testing. Mayweather wanted more money. If Pacquiao said yes to Floyd's testing brand, Floyd would have come up with another roadblock.

Four years have passed. Floyd's behaviour in all those years should have been enough to make you realize it's Floyd that is blocking the fight.

If you're saying Floyd can do no wrong... there's nothing more to say to you.

[turnedup]

No way does this fight do 400 million in gross total.

Feel free to link me to the breakdown though as I'd love to be proven wrong.

Alvarez vs Mayweather did over $200 million gross without major brands involved without heavy push for merchandise...you honestly think the rabid fans of both Pacquaio vs Mayweather after all of this shhh wouldn't push those numbers into the stratosphere...here's an article from Forbes estimating upwards of $250 million gross without sponsors or merchandise and without the location of the event contributing a dime to securing themselves the event.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...yd-mayweather/

You can bet your life MGM will be ponying up upwards of $30 million alone to lock in this event.

[Carpe Diem]

Comments Thread For: Arum: We're Very Open To Pacquiao-Bradley II, Pacquiao-Provodnikov, Pacquiao-Marquez V, Pacquiao-Alvarado in '14

[big_james10]

Anyone who believes anything that comes out of Bob Arum's mouth is an idiot. Arum said this same thing a few weeks ago. He is trying to sell the Pacquaio/Rios fight just as he was a few weeks ago and just as he was when he said the same thing in 2010, 2011 and 2012. When Pac fights again in June 2014, Arum will claim that the fight can be made in 2015. Arum has no intention of making Mayweather/Pacquaio and it is sad to see so many fools on this site fall for Arum's BS and talk sh.t like the fight has already been signed.

[Holywarrior]

Alvarez vs Mayweather did over $200 million gross without major brands involved without heavy push for merchandise...you honestly think the rabid fans of both Pacquaio vs Mayweather after all of this shhh wouldn't push those numbers into the stratosphere...here's an article from Forbes estimating upwards of $250 million gross without sponsors or merchandise and without the location of the event contributing a dime to securing themselves the event.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...yd-mayweather/

You can bet your life MGM will be ponying up upwards of $30 million alone to lock in this event.

But that's all numbers and hearsay from Golden Boy. I don't trust their numbers at all.

These are the same people that claim showtime did well on the Guerrero PPV

[oc9979]

It can't be. All I read on here is that Floyd always uses Manny's name to promote his fight.. It can't be the other way around

Arum always uses Mayweather's name the week of the fight. Mayweather tend to annouce his fight the week of a big fight.