Debunking that Ariza was wrong in kicking Roach

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  • Jam Jars
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    #81
    Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
    Of course he can tell them to leave. His scheduled gym time was 11:00 am.
    The time of the incident was 11:15.

    Team Rios showed up to the gym late, as a result were taking away from Roach's time. He had every right to demand they clear the gym for him.

    It's not like Roach showed up early at 10:50 and started kicking people out.
    That's for whoever is in charge of the premises to sort out, not Freddie Roach.

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    • Young Stribling
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      #82
      Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
      The fact is, Roach advanced towards Ariza in a hostile state and Ariza had every right to defend himself.

      Ariza's choice to jab at Roach with a front kick was the right thing to do given the circumstances.

      That being said, Ariza proved he is a piece of **** when he mocked Roach's Parkinson's and he will probably face the karmic consequences.
      It was the behaviour of the Garcia team just after the incident that disturbed me more than the incident itself. The mocking of Roach's condition, the way Humpty f'ing Dumpty was acting like he's a hard man who's nation was greviously insulted. And of course let's not forget the star of the cruise, male impersonator Miss Alexis Ariza, famous for her high kicks. And, during the whole seedy event, the Captain of this boxing 'Conchordia' Roberto "I'm not in charge!" Garcia. Way to control your crew, Mi Capitan.

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      • JohnSmithJr
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        #83
        Originally posted by Michael Paine
        That's for whoever is in charge of the premises to sort out, not Freddie Roach.
        Well, whoever is in charge of the premises is probably a person who must be responsible enough to understand and respect time and punctuality. If Team Rios were casino workers, whoever is in charge of the premise would fire them from the job for showing up to work late.

        I am more than certain that type of person would agree 100% with my opinion on this matter.

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          #84
          Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
          Well, whoever is in charge of the premises is probably a person who must be responsible enough to understand and respect time and punctuality. If Team Rios were casino workers, whoever is in charge of the premise would fire them from the job for showing up to work late.

          I am more than certain that type of person would agree 100% with my opinion on this matter.
          But thats not the dynamics of the situation.

          TEAM RIOS IS NOT FREAKING RESPONSIBLE FOR CALLING NEWS AND MEDIA STATIONS AND SETTING UP TIME AND DATES FOR PROMOTING THE FIGHT.

          ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING???

          TOP RANK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROMOTING THE FIGHT AND SETTING UP THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE VARIOUS MEDIA AND IF THEY SCREWED UP AND MESSED UP RIOS CAMP TRAINING TIME THATS ON BOB ARUM NOT THE RIOS CAMP.

          Seriously your unbelievable talking that nonsense about how "TEAM RIOS BEING LATE"

          Really??? Really???

          Robert Garcia clearly stated that ESPN interview took longer that expected, THATS RIGHT AN INTERVIEW SET UP BY BOB ARUM NOT ROBERT GARCIA.

          Before the brawl Robert told Freddie the interview took longer than expected and Freddie said "that is not my fault" and he is right but Robert also told him "that is not my fault either" in which he is also right.

          YOU KNOW WHOS FREAKIN FAULT IS????

          THATS RIGHT BOB ARUM/TOP RANK!!!!

          LOL The audacity you have to say "BUT BUT BUT TEAM RIOS WAS LATE" "PUNCTUALITY".

          Get outta here with that nonsense.
          Last edited by shacasulu; 11-20-2013, 11:14 PM.

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          • KickAzz
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            #85
            What kind of douce bag fights a guy with Parkinson's?

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            • JohnSmithJr
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              #86
              Originally posted by shacasulu
              LOL Ok if thats how you feel so be it BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE IN THE COURT OF LAW.

              Bob Arum will more than likely also tell you to go f yourself considering hes the one that screwed up and will ask you to wait 30 more minutes.

              What are you going to do then??? Tell Bob Arum hes a piece of sh...??? Tell Bob Arum "You effing ***"???

              Go ahead see what happens to you then LOL

              YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE
              This is what Arum had to say about the incident:

              Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-gym-...#ixzz2lFXAKaJm
              This is a legal waiver. By copying and using the material from this article, you agree to give full credit to BoxingScene.com or provide a link to the original article.

              “Garcia and Rios are good friends of mine and they listened to reason, and I’ve told them to tone everything down and they will. But Ariza sometimes gets out of control"

              Notice, Arum's disciplinary action was directed to Team Rios. He had to tell them to tone it down and then singled out Ariza as the source of the problem. There ya go. The Head person in charge of the event recognizes Team Rios as the offending party.

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              • MELLY-MEL...
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                #87
                Originally posted by KickAzz
                What kind of douce bag fights a guy with Parkinson's?
                Thats all that really needs to be said.

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                • JohnSmithJr
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by shacasulu
                  Thats why you are wrong.

                  TEAM RIOS IS NOT FREAKING RESPONSIBLE FOR CALLING NEWS AND MEDIA STATIONS AND SETTING UP TIME AND DATES FOR PROMOTING THE FIGHT.

                  ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING???

                  TOP RANK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROMOTING THE FIGHT AND SETTING UP THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE VARIOUS MEDIA AND IF THEY SCREWED UP AND MESSED UP RIOS CAMP TRAINING TIME THATS ON BOB ARUM NOT THE RIOS CAMP.

                  Seriously your unbelievable talking that nonsense about how "TEAM RIOS BEING LATE"

                  Really??? Really???

                  Robert Garcia clearly stated that ESPN interview took longer that expected, THATS RIGHT AN INTERVIEW SET UP BY BOB ARUM NOT ROBERT GARCIA.

                  Before the brawl Robert told Freddie the interview took longer than expected and Freddie said "that is not my fault" and he is right but Robert also told him "that is not my fault either" in which he is also right.

                  YOU WHOS FREAKIN FAULT IS????

                  THATS RIGHT BOB ARUM/TOP RANK!!!!

                  LOL The audacity you have to say "BUT BUT BUT TEAM RIOS WAS LATE" "PUNCTUALITY".

                  Get outta here with that nonsense.
                  I am done with you now. Your arguments are all based on an amateur's philosophy and you more than likely have no concept of professionalism.

                  You can CAPS LOCK all you want about how much you think you know about promotional packages and interview scheduling but the more you caps lock about it, the more you show how little you know.
                  Last edited by JohnSmithJr; 11-20-2013, 11:22 PM.

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                  • Young Stribling
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by shacasulu
                    You cant beat the grandma to a pulp because then you would lose in court but a punch or kick here and there is perfectly acceptable.

                    Why is that grandma striking you with her purse???

                    Its so easy to say, "its just a grandma" but you never know at the end of the day. The world is a freakin jungle and at least on that end the court system understands that.
                    I can't believe my American law professor is named Shaka ****in Zulu!!!

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                    • shacasulu
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
                      This is what Arum had to say about the incident:

                      Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-gym-...#ixzz2lFXAKaJm
                      This is a legal waiver. By copying and using the material from this article, you agree to give full credit to BoxingScene.com or provide a link to the original article.

                      “Garcia and Rios are good friends of mine and they listened to reason, and I’ve told them to tone everything down and they will. But Ariza sometimes gets out of control"

                      Notice, Arum's disciplinary action was directed to Team Rios. He had to tell them to tone it down and then singled out Ariza as the source of the problem. There ya go. The Head person in charge of the event recognizes Team Rios as the offending party.
                      This has nothing to do with what you are arguing about TEAM RIOS BEING LATE which is complete nonsense.

                      AND NO WHAT FREAKIN DICIPLINARY ACTION DID ARUM TAKE ON TEAM RIOS???

                      Get outta here with that BS.

                      Saying that Ariza got out of control doesnt mean anything under the court of law.

                      Arum aint ****** either he told Freddie that his ass would get arrested as well if they press charges.

                      If Freddie is the clear victim why would Arum say they'll take Freddie's ass also???

                      Please....

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