Hatton vs Mayweather @140

[dc3383]

Once settled meaning...after Cortez felt comfortable Hatton had taken enough big shots and taken a point off him. Cortez was never going to let them fight until he was sure Hatton posed no threat. He confirmed his bias in the Ortiz fight, these were Floyd's only two knockouts in his last 10 fights, Cortez central to both. That's just the reality.

Floyd has more than two KO's in the last ten years; Hatton never landed the cleaner punches from the 1st rd on; stop making excuses Coertz wasn't the reason Ortiz or Hatton loss. I do want to know how can he be sure Hatton posed no threat

[Marvellous1]

Mayweather could've taken the fight earlier too, but "there's no way I'm travelling to England" despite Hatton being the bigger draw at the time.

At the end of the day, it was Hatton who took the risk of moving up a weight class, fighting in a foreign country, with a partial foreign ref and three foreign judges - not Floyd who refuses to travel and continues to duck the most dangerous fights.

I understand Weebs. Cortez is your coping mechanism and it would be cruel to take it away.

I remember the build up at the time and Hatton's team did not want Cotto or Mayweather at that time (after Tzsyu) They weren't ready. Their words. Comedy champ Maussa and a potential fight with Gatti was what they were chasing (until Baldomir screwed that up). Mayweather moved on so they had to come to him (after the DLH fight they lost their leverage). Again, it wasn't about the weight (the thread topic) Hatton just wasn't good enough.

[Bull24]

Depends, does Joe Cortez let Mayweather lead with his elbows again?

[Jimmy 23]

Stup*d thread/Topicstarter big assho*e

[Marvellous1]

Or does he let Hatton lead with his head? One thing's for sure, he shouldn't have led with the hook!

[Weebler I]

I understand Weebs. Cortez is your coping mechanism and it would be cruel to take it away.

Pacquiao and Senchenko beat Hatton fair and square. Mayweather did not, he benefited from partial refereeing.

It's about corruption in boxing and you'll see me talk about that in many other fights.

I remember the build up at the time and Hatton's team did not want Cotto or Mayweather at that time (after Tzsyu) They weren't ready. Their words. Comedy champ Maussa and a potential fight with Gatti was what they were chasing (until Baldomir screwed that up). Mayweather moved on so they had to come to him (after the DLH fight they lost their leverage). Again, it wasn't about the weight (the thread topic) Hatton just wasn't good enough.

Hatton would have taken the Mayweather fight in Manchester any time, don't delude yourself otherwise on that. Floyd wasn't brave enough to travel, he even bitched and moaned about having to fight in Atlantic City against Gatti.

When it comes down to it Mayweather is not interested in anything but self-preservation when it comes to opponent choice, he doesn't want the most dangerous fights. He accepts fights when his opponents are put at a disadvantage. Floyd fans know all this deep down, they see his actions and who he avoids, but they defend him anyway.

[Holywarrior]

Floyd stops Hatton at 140

[Marvellous1]

Well your theories don't bother me because I've been watching boxing since Hagler/Minter mate Mayweather is far from "all I've got" but judging by your whining I could level that at you and Hatton. I've enjoyed watching many fighters and respect Hatton's toughness but never thought he'd beat Mayweather and was so sure of a KO I put money on it (got the round right tok which won me a tidy sum). Hatton's only chance was to make it a messy brawl which many refs in the states don't tend to allow. The whole "bumping heads before throwing a punch" is very British and to be honest I don't like watching it. Hatton needed a jab but with short arms and elbow problems he once alluded to, he didn't have a sufficient one to give him a chance to get close with out grappling ot eating shots on the way in. THIS is one of the reasons he wasn't good enough. Cortez or no Cortez. I also remember that his team were looking at different fights, not talking about locations. They said they weren't ready.

[FrankieBruno]

Hatton one of my fav boxers, but he'd never beat Floyd

The skill difference was evident, Hattons style is something Floyd loves more than anything

He used Hattons strengths against him, i.e his inside fighting

Hatton recently gave a good break down of what makes Floyd so difficult to hit, he said he is fast and gets off punches even when he's on the ropes and you think you have him cornered

[Weebler I]

Well your theories don't bother me because I've been watching boxing since Hagler/Minter mate Mayweather is far from "all I've got" but judging by your whining I could level that at you and Hatton. I've enjoyed watching many fighters and respect Hatton's toughness but never thought he'd beat Mayweather and was so sure of a KO I put money on it (got the round right tok which won me a tidy sum). Hatton's only chance was to make it a messy brawl which many refs in the states don't tend to allow. The whole "bumping heads before throwing a punch" is very British and to be honest I don't like watching it. Hatton needed a jab but with short arms and elbow problems he once alluded to, he didn't have a sufficient one to give him a chance to get close with out grappling ot eating shots on the way in. THIS is one of the reasons he wasn't good enough. Cortez or no Cortez. I also remember that his team were looking at different fights, not talking about locations. They said they weren't ready.

It's not theories, it's an opinion. I've watched a lot of boxing too, and I know what transpired that night because I've seen it many times since. Hatton and his trainer know what went down too. Ask their opinion on the refereeing and whether they got a fair crack at it.

US refs don't allow certain styles when it's a foreign fighter, but when it's a US fighter it's all good. This happens elsewhere too, it's not a US issue, it's boxing problem, it's corrupt and latter day Cortez is a prime example of it.

Taking a shot on the way in wasn't a problem for Hatton because when he gets in, he stays in. The problem was Cortez repeatedly breaking them up so he was constantly taking shots on the way in. Cortez stays out, then it's not an issue but he couldn't stay out because he was protecting the house fighter.

On the last point, Hatton was moving to fight in the US with the eventual goal of fighting Mayweather. Why? because Floyd wasn't coming to the UK under any circumstances, they wanted that fight over here but Floyd didn't and neither did Arum.