Is David Haye's retirement good or bad for the HW division?

[LacedUp]

actually, that's exactly what he did.


he won a con artist title and defended it in con artist fashion. he talked his way into a fight with wladimir [suggesting that he'd take his head off along the way,] and blamed his F#CKING TOE. he won his "World championship" against valuev in a pitiful showing. he defended it against john ruiz and audley harrison. i'm just going to say that twice. he defended it against john ruiz and audley harrison.


his best win at HW is chisora coming off of two losses.


he was a complete fraud, a fabrication, a thief, and a conman.

How did he con anyone in his stint as a cruiserweight?

[New England]

NE how any why have you turned this into a Brit vs USA thing bringing that up. Almost totally pointless in this thread and latest post nothing on topic at all. What a waste.

He was the most exciting HW, which is good for boxing. Like him or not.

surely you're joking. you cannot possibly believe that the rest of the world thinks this way.


did you see the biggest fight of his life?


that's how he fought in the biggest fight of his life. he took his shoe off and blamed his toe. the HW title used to be the most coveted title in sport. haye is an embarrassment to that notion.


the popularity of david haye is explicitly british. you're so british you think he's exciting. you cannot discuss the phenomenon without addressing that.

[Weebler I]

He's not retiring any more than Mayweather was retiring in 2007 or his own fake retirement in 2011.

It's just a PR sympathy line designed to reduce the damage of spoiling the Fury fight.

He'll be back, like a bad smell.

[New England]

How did he con anyone in his stint as a cruiserweight?

are any of the fights i've mentioned against cruiserweights?

[New England]

He's not retiring any more than Mayweather was retiring in 2007 or his own fake retirement in 2011.

It's just a PR sympathy line designed to reduce the damage of spoiling the Fury fight.

He'll be back, like a bad smell.

funny post, and likely mired in reality.

[yoz]

Both.

Bad because I believe he had the talent to compete with the Klitschkos. He had the best chance of anyone out there of beating them. There were some big fights out there involving him.

Good because he's a con artist. A salesman. He wastes everyone's time with ****ty fights and fake injuries. He's heart is not in boxing, he uses it as a way to become a celebrity. Therefore he'd probably never have the conviction to go out and actually beat a Klitschko. He'd be happy collecting his cheque and laying another egg in the ring.

I don't agree with Dirk much, but this ^^^^

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He's not retiring any more than Mayweather was retiring in 2007 or his own fake retirement in 2011.

It's just a PR sympathy line designed to reduce the damage of spoiling the Fury fight.

He'll be back, like a bad smell.

He'll be back to fight Vitali next summer. There's no way this injury is career threatening, if indeed there is an injury.

[yoz]

He'll be back to fight Vitali next summer. There's no way this injury is career threatening, if indeed there is an injury.

There's talk in Kiev that Haye's been in contact with K2.

He'll be back. Hopefully Grandpa Vitali brutalizes him.

The sad fact is, if he comes back for a Vitali fight, and somehow wins, he'll just 'retire' again

[LacedUp]

A con artist doesn't unify his division, then move up and win a title at HW against far bigger opponents.

actually, that's exactly what he did.

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[LacedUp]

There's talk in Kiev that Haye's been in contact with K2.

He'll be back. Hopefully Grandpa Vitali brutalizes him.

The sad fact is, if he comes back for a Vitali fight, and somehow wins, he'll just 'retire' again

probably. I hope he retires for good.