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  • WilkinsOlajuwon
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    #51
    Bradley has always had a chip on his shoulder about his popularity. While Pacquiao was the main driver and ultimate goal, getting out from Shaw was also a factor.

    A fight with Khan would not have made PPV, a fight with Pac PPV is guaranteed.

    Bradley is simply and clearly not a ducker. He cant sell a free dollar but a ducker he isn't.

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    • Rome-By-Ko
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      #52
      Originally posted by Michael Paine
      That's untrue though isn't it, Bradley was never guaranteed a Pacquiao fight he wasn't even first choice when he got it. You're trying to rewrite history.
      Bradley was guaranteed more then one fight..Which was right off the back a better deal then Khan offered..Not to mention Khan had went off and fought Mccloskey to sign a three fight deal..Why would Bradley not be looking for the same thing??Pac was of course included in this deal with TR,which is why he fought on Pac Marquez undercard..It's simple,all that Bradley was not the first option is just business bro..Pac is not ever gonna say the guy he wants to fight is his best option,why would he??So his opponent can hold his feet to the fire??

      Bradley never ducked Khan,Bradley made a business/career move..He took a better deal,nothing more nothing less..

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        #53
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        the arum comes to tim and offers him a deal that includes making double his purse for a khan fight with a manny fight,, just sign the deal, we will give you a stay-busy fight vs casamoyer on a manny undercard, then you can fight manny,,,
        That would be all well and good if it were actually true. Which it is not. If that was true, why were they desperately trying to fight Cotto at a cathweight?

        You think they actually wanted to do Manny-Bradley as their first choice? LOL

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          #54
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          That would be all well and good if it were actually true. Which it is not. If that was true, why were they desperately trying to fight Cotto at a cathweight?

          You think they actually wanted to do Manny-Bradley as their first choice? LOL
          it is true,, they may have wanted to do bradley at a later date, but the facts remain they signed him to fight manny eventually,,, they had him on the undercard, and then when cotto-manny 2 couldnt get made, he was the next in line,,,

          had cotto-manny 2 been made, tim would have been on that undercard in another tune-up and manny won again,, he would have fought tim next...

          he signed with TR to get the manny fight,, yes it may not have been the first option for manny's next fight, but he was going to land it,,,

          I cant believe people try and debate this,,, there is no logical person that can actually believe that tim signed with TR to avoid khan,,, He signed with them to get into the manny sweepstakes and it worked,, was he guaranteed the next shot at manny, no, but he was guaranteed a shot in line with cotto and jmm,,,, it just worked out that cotto-manny couldnt reach a deal and tim was the next in line,,, Had he not signed with TR, and stayed put or signed with golden boy, we would never get the manny fight

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            #55
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            it is true,, they may have wanted to do bradley at a later date, but the facts remain they signed him to fight manny eventually
            Yeah eventually. That's not what you said. Eventually could be any time. So Bradley would continue to get passes for fighting bums and shot fighters because "eventually", he would get a Pacquiao fight? Is that what you're saying?

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              #56
              Seems the same to me

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              • Sugar Adam Ali
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                #57
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Yeah eventually. That's not what you said. Eventually could be any time. So Bradley would continue to get passes for fighting bums and shot fighters because "eventually", he would get a Pacquiao fight? Is that what you're saying?
                yeah pretty much, he would land a manny fight in 2012 or early 13

                what would you do

                take 2 mil vs khan in a 50/50 fight, possibly lose and then never make big money fights again

                or take some easy tune-ups on manny's undercards and then get a fight with manny for 4 mil+ to go along with some 500k paydays on the undercards and land jmm fight for another 4 mil

                hmm, 2 mil and nothing to show for it, or about 10 mil and become well known to the boxing world,,,,,,,

                Its a no brainer,,,


                you can be an idiot and spin how ever you want to, saying they tried to make cotto rematch first but that is just spin,, everyone knew bradley signed with TR to land manny, and thats exactly what happened,, you guys act like it took him 2 or 3 years to land manny but he got the fight signed in about 6 months and bradley made the right choice,,,,,

                Now once again i have asked this question and none have answered,,

                IS khan ducking ghost, brook, alexander, because he is waiting for floyd in may???????????

                Its the exact same scenario,,

                But i dont expect you to understand it,,, you are the guy that thought cleverly would beat kovolev were you not????? That pretty much sums up your ability to analyze boxing

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  yeah pretty much, he would land a manny fight in 2012 or early 13

                  what would you do

                  take 2 mil vs khan in a 50/50 fight, possibly lose and then never make big money fights again

                  or take some easy tune-ups on manny's undercards and then get a fight with manny for 4 mil+ to go along with some 500k paydays on the undercards and land jmm fight for another 4 mil

                  hmm, 2 mil and nothing to show for it, or about 10 mil and become well known to the boxing world,,,,,,,

                  Its a no brainer,,,
                  Yeah it's also a duck. Taking lesser fights for lesser money to avoid your number 1 challenger in the division is ducking plain and simple. Otherwise what the *** is ducking? Does it not exist anymore cos everyone seems to have excuses.

                  Khan is not taking a lesser fight and lesser money. He's going straight to Mayweather. If Khan rocks up and fights Casamayor next, then come back and say its the same thing.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    you can be an idiot and spin how ever you want to, saying they tried to make cotto rematch first but that is just spin,, everyone knew bradley signed with TR to land manny, and thats exactly what happened,, you guys act like it took him 2 or 3 years to land manny but he got the fight signed in about 6 months and bradley made the right choice,,,,,
                    Spin? No that actually happened. It's called facts. Spin is talking about how the fight happened 6 months later when Bradley had no way of knowing that at the time he ducked Khan. You're using hindsight to justify the prior act of ducking.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      yeah pretty much, he would land a manny fight in 2012 or early 13

                      what would you do

                      take 2 mil vs khan in a 50/50 fight, possibly lose and then never make big money fights again

                      or take some easy tune-ups on manny's undercards and then get a fight with manny for 4 mil+ to go along with some 500k paydays on the undercards and land jmm fight for another 4 mil

                      hmm, 2 mil and nothing to show for it, or about 10 mil and become well known to the boxing world,,,,,,,

                      Its a no brainer,,,


                      you can be an idiot and spin how ever you want to, saying they tried to make cotto rematch first but that is just spin,, everyone knew bradley signed with TR to land manny, and thats exactly what happened,, you guys act like it took him 2 or 3 years to land manny but he got the fight signed in about 6 months and bradley made the right choice,,,,,

                      Now once again i have asked this question and none have answered,,

                      IS khan ducking ghost, brook, alexander, because he is waiting for floyd in may???????????

                      Its the exact same scenario,,

                      But i dont expect you to understand it,,, you are the guy that thought cleverly would beat kovolev were you not????? That pretty much sums up your ability to analyze boxing
                      Cotto was most definitely the first option. When Cotto refused to go down in weight then Bradley was the next option.

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