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  • Jam Jars
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    #41
    Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
    Bradley has fought more accomplished fighters than Khan. Fortunately most of the boxing community sees this. No one even remembers the Shaw beef except for a few choice fans.

    Why is this even an issue if not for sour g****s?
    It becomes an issue when people try to rewrite history.

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    • Jam Jars
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      #42
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      i dont get it,, you guys seem to be bright,, i dont understand how you cant comprehend the situation,,,

      khan vs bradley in 2011 was going to be a big fight, a real 50/50 type fight and everyone involved knew it would be a tough fight,,

      the arum comes to tim and offers him a deal that includes making double his purse for a khan fight with a manny fight,, just sign the deal, we will give you a stay-busy fight vs casamoyer on a manny undercard, then you can fight manny,,,
      Now if your bradley what would you do???? the smart move is to take arums offer,
      Idiots would fight khan in a 50/50 fight for half the cash

      now khan is doing the same thing
      I dont see him trying to fight alexander or ghost, two options that have been discussed, because he is holding out for a floyd fight for double the money and a chance to make history vs floyd,,,
      Its the exact same scenario,

      and bradley made the right decision, he now has gotten 2 huge paydays with manny and jmm and now possible rematches for even more money,,
      and khan is sitting on the sidelines after looking like crap for 4 fights now,,,

      is khan ducking the other welters??? why is he so quiet,, why isnt he calling out alexander or ghost or garcia, or broner, or ortiz,,,,,,,,,Hmmmmm probably because he knows he can land a floyd fight and doesnt want to risk the career payday vs a threat that brings less than half the money,,,, is that a duck
      That's untrue though isn't it, Bradley was never guaranteed a Pacquiao fight he wasn't even first choice when he got it. You're trying to rewrite history.

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      • Jam Jars
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        #43
        Door 1
        Prize - Nothing
        You could get a chance to open door 2 with 2000 behind it.

        Door 2
        Prize - 1000
        50/50 chance you could get a chance to open door 2 with 2000 behind it.


        Which door would you choose? Bradley chose door 1.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Michael Paine
          That's untrue though isn't it, Bradley was never guaranteed a Pacquiao fight he wasn't even first choice when he got it. You're trying to rewrite history.
          what are you talking about,,,, he was guaranteed the manny fight,, just like jmm was when he went to TR, and just like shane when he went to TR for the manny fight,, You gotta be with TR to fight manny,, that should be obvious by now, cotto, margs, clottey, jmm, rios, etc

          he may not have been guaranteed that exact date and time, but during the course of the deal, he was guaranteed a manny fight,, why else would he have signed,,, to fight casamoyer and ruslan,,, C'mon man,,, it was a duck, it was a business move, just like how khan is doing now to get the floyd fight,,,

          Its just business,,, Do you think khan is ducking the other welters and jr welters,,,, i dont,, i think he is making a smart business decision, just like bradley has done

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            #45
            Originally posted by Michael Paine
            Door 1
            Prize - Nothing
            You could get a chance to open door 2 with 2000 behind it.

            Door 2
            Prize - 1000
            50/50 chance you could get a chance to open door 2 with 2000 behind it.


            Which door would you choose? Bradley chose door 1.
            that doesnt even make any sense

            door 1- khan for 2 mil

            door 2- manny for 4+ mil and an easy bonus of 500k for casamoyer, jmm for 4 mil


            That is what it was like

            khan

            door 1- alexander or broner or garcia for 1.5 mil

            door 2- floyd for about 4 mil


            exact same scenario but your fanboy mentality is getting the better of you my friend

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              #46
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              what are you talking about,,,, he was guaranteed the manny fight,, just like jmm was when he went to TR, and just like shane when he went to TR for the manny fight,, You gotta be with TR to fight manny,, that should be obvious by now, cotto, margs, clottey, jmm, rios, etc

              he may not have been guaranteed that exact date and time, but during the course of the deal, he was guaranteed a manny fight,, why else would he have signed,,, to fight casamoyer and ruslan,,, C'mon man,,, it was a duck, it was a business move, just like how khan is doing now to get the floyd fight,,,

              Its just business,,, Do you think khan is ducking the other welters and jr welters,,,, i dont,, i think he is making a smart business decision, just like bradley has done
              Him signing with TR didn't guarantee him a fight, increased his chances. A Khan win would have increased his chances too and also gave him his biggest payday to date. Every duck in boxing history could be excused as a "business" move because losing is not good for business.

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              • Jam Jars
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                #47
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                that doesnt even make any sense

                door 1- khan for 2 mil

                door 2- manny for 4+ mil and an easy bonus of 500k for casamoyer, jmm for 4 mil


                That is what it was like

                khan

                door 1- alexander or broner or garcia for 1.5 mil

                door 2- floyd for about 4 mil


                exact same scenario but your fanboy mentality is getting the better of you my friend
                That's not how it is because door one can still lead to door 2, and there's no guarantee in both scenarios you'll get to the bigger prize.

                Fanboy? i don't like Khan, if you go through my post history you will see that i really dislike the guy, but i'm gonna call bull**** when i see it.

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                  #48
                  Bradley ducked khan way before the manny fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Michael Paine
                    That's not how it is because door one can still lead to door 2, and there's no guarantee in both scenarios you'll get to the bigger prize.

                    Fanboy? i don't like Khan, if you go through my post history you will see that i really dislike the guy, but i'm gonna call bull**** when i see it.
                    no, a duck is sturm ducking ggg forever, prince naseem ducking jmm for years, bowe ducking lewis,,, those are ducks,,,,

                    yes i would have liked to seen khan-bradley but i cant hate on bradley for passing it up for a "chance" at manny

                    just like i think khan is doing the smart thing by not taking any fights right now to land a floyd fight, even though you have alexander, brook, ghost, broner, maidana rematch, garcia rematch, etc

                    Its a business move if you are chasing bigger money and higher profile fights,,,,,

                    Do you think khan is ducking the other welters and jr welters right now???

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by JackTheLad
                      Bradley ducked khan way before the manny fight.
                      no not really,, khan/bradley was suppose to happen in the summer of 11, but bradley skipped out to sign with TR and took the casamoyer fight on the manny undercard and then took on manny,,

                      now had it been a year or 2 before, you would be correct, but summer to the next spring is not a long time in boxing,, they basically set up fights months in advance to allow the hype to build,,,

                      bradley said no to khan to sign with TR and get a chance at manny, and thats exactly what happened,,,

                      do you think khan is ducking guys now like brook, alexander, broner, etc to get a chance at floyd in may?????

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