Comments Thread For: Stiverne Vows To Take The Fight To Vitali Klitschko

[Boxing Goat]

i think stiverne is a sam peter type fighter with a lil more athleticism. he's too short and will get stopped. imho, there should be a super heavyweight divsion.

Hes probably the polar opposite of peter other than having black skin

[Boxing Goat]

Stiverne is a tall order for Vitali at this point.

Will he still be after the fight is the question

[KBRO]

Vitali Klitschko is the ONLY boxing champion in any weight class... that has NEVER been down on the canvas... NEVER been outboxed... NEVER been outlanded & outthrown... ( total punches landed & thrown) NEVER been outslugged (Power punches landed & thrown) NEVER been outjabbed (jabs thrown & landed)... NEVER trailed on the scorecards past the first rd or at the end of any bout....



NEVER lost more than 2 rds on official scorecards in any bout... has practically won more than 90% of all the rds he's ever fought & has stopped nearly 90% of his entire opposition.. ONLY bodily injuries & retirements have kept his record at a lowly 45-2....


57-0 is what legitimately could've taken place.. two losses due ONLY to cuts & physical injury while winning 12 out of the 15 rds fought combined. (in fact the Lewis fight is his CLOSEST bout on the scorecrads he ONLY won 2/3 or 66.66%)...a more perfect dissection of opposition we will NEVER again see in this lifetime.... it's a travesty that these Vitali Klitschko FACTS go unnoticed or unrecognized by the true boxing layman... you can NOT blame opposition or there lackof for this type of sustained brilliance.. sooner or later one has to recognize that Klitschko is to blame for this dominance & not his opposition otherwise we'd have another champion garnering the same said results.

[joe strong]

Lets be honest here.... If Vitali fights and beats Stiverne, 96% of posters here will call Stiverne a bum, but won't make any posts leading up to the fight and will wait until its over to decide whether or not Stiverne is a bum or not


(for the record, I'm all for this fight. Stiverne is the mandatory)

sadly this is pretty accurate... stiverne beat Austin & arreola so obviously he is not a bum...

[joe strong]

Vitali Klitschko is the ONLY boxing champion in any weight class... that has NEVER been down on the canvas... NEVER been outboxed... NEVER been outlanded & outthrown... ( total punches landed & thrown) NEVER been outslugged (Power punches landed & thrown) NEVER been outjabbed (jabs thrown & landed)... NEVER trailed on the scorecards past the first rd or at the end of any bout....


NEVER lost more than 2 rds on official scorecards in any bout... has practically won more than 90% of all the rds he's ever fought & has stopped nearly 90% of his entire opposition.. ONLY bodily injuries & retirements have kept his record at a lowly 45-2....


57-0 is what legitimately could've taken place.. two losses due ONLY to cuts & physical injury while winning 12 out of the 15 rds fought combined. (in fact the Lewis fight is his CLOSEST bout on the scorecrads he ONLY won 2/3 or 66.66%)...a more perfect dissection of opposition we will NEVER again see in this lifetime.... it's a travesty that these Vitali Klitschko FACTS go unnoticed or unrecognized by the true boxing layman... you can NOT blame opposition or there lackof for this type of sustained brilliance.. sooner or later one has to recognize that Klitschko is to blame for this dominance & not his opposition otherwise we'd have another champion garnering the same said results.

.... if making voluntaries against sosnowski, kingpin & charr makes you think he is an ATG then whatever... what do your stats have to do with anything? he never came close to fighting the best heavyweights of his era. he fought 2 in lewis & byrd (0-2)... all your stats mean nothing because he lost. that's like saying I almost ****** her... you either did or you didn't. the story how it happened is irrelevant just like he was winning on the cards is irrelevant because he LOST! even after his win over corrie sanders he defended against danny Williams instead of the other 50 top heavyweights in the world...he pulled out of fights vs maskaev & Rahman... enough already!

[KBRO]

.... if making voluntaries against sosnowski, kingpin & charr makes you think he is an ATG then whatever... what do your stats have to do with anything? he never came close to fighting the best heavyweights of his era. he fought 2 in lewis & byrd (0-2)... all your stats mean nothing because he lost. that's like saying I almost ****** her... you either did or you didn't. the story how it happened is irrelevant just like he was winning on the cards is irrelevant because he LOST! even after his win over corrie sanders he defended against danny Williams instead of the other 50 top heavyweights in the world...he pulled out of fights vs maskaev & Rahman... enough already!

He did F her.. it was just premature ejaculation/stoppage.. doesn't mean that while the sex/fight was commencing he wasn't handling his business... please we're talking a 47 fight sample where EVERY single opponent has suffered the same fate WITHOUT exceptions.


Klitschko does this to whom ever gets in the ring with him whether it's a tomatoe can early in his career or to a top 5 alltime heavyweight champion... we have evidence of how he beat one of the best heavyweights that has ever laced them up to the punch for all 6 rds they fought.. so saying it's because of opposition that he's done what nobody else has been able to do lacks merit or factual cause.


It was unfortunate those bouts to Byrd & Lewis never got completed in it's entirety but while the fights were taking place he was for the most part schooling both so stating he lost to the two best fighters he ever fought might betechnically true based on those fighters accomplishments it doesn't state the true tale of the tape or the controversial circumstances that ended both bouts.

If those fighters were truly better than Klitschko they should've mustered more than 3 collective rds out of 15 that they had fought Vitali.. all they did was outlast him in those bouts as Klitschko's body failed.. his shoulder & later his face.. his actual boxing didn't.. as for the other 45 fighters...Mayweather doesn't even remotely come close to how thoroughly he's beaten his opposition.

Bottom line there is no boxer in history that you can legitimately say has an obvious advantage over Vitali.. you can't say that about too many... almost all past greats had some type of flaw... whether it was a size disadvantage.. power but no jaw... you name it.. Vitali is the least flawed heavyweight to ever lace them up in terms of he's one of the few that has it all.. chin.. strength .. power.. size.. throws punches in bunches.. hard to hit.. hits hard.. if the ONLY weakness you can claim about a fighter is that his body fails him & not boxing ability.. then you have it all.

[KBRO]

No coincidence that Klitschko is the Only legitimate heavyweight champion that has NEVER faced the same opponent twice.. that's 47 different fighters...you can say it's lucky matchmaking... coincidence this is NOT.... look up any heavyweight champion & you'll see at least one name twice... if everyone here thinks all these "never happened to him facts" are just sheer luck of the draw.. then you're misling yourselves... one or two coincidences.. perhaps three.. ok perhaps luck but more than a dozen boxing intangibles that he's the ONLY one to ever sustain as an alltime great champion has nothing whatsoever to do with who he's fought & everything to do with how he's fought.

[mathed]

Stivern is a great boxer but he is just too small for Vitali.....I mean lets be honest.

[joe strong]

He did F her.. it was just premature ejaculation/stoppage.. doesn't mean that while the sex/fight was commencing he wasn't handling his business... please we're talking a 47 fight sample where EVERY single opponent has suffered the same fate WITHOUT exceptions.


Klitschko does this to whom ever gets in the ring with him whether it's a tomatoe can early in his career or to a top 5 alltime heavyweight champion... we have evidence of how he beat one of the best heavyweights that has ever laced them up to the punch for all 6 rds they fought.. so saying it's because of opposition that he's done what nobody else has been able to do lacks merit or factual cause.


It was unfortunate those bouts to Byrd & Lewis never got completed in it's entirety but while the fights were taking place he was for the most part schooling both so stating he lost to the two best fighters he ever fought might betechnically true based on those fighters accomplishments it doesn't state the true tale of the tape or the controversial circumstances that ended both bouts.

If those fighters were truly better than Klitschko they should've mustered more than 3 collective rds out of 15 that they had fought Vitali.. all they did was outlast him in those bouts as Klitschko's body failed.. his shoulder & later his face.. his actual boxing didn't.. as for the other 45 fighters...Mayweather doesn't even remotely come close to how thoroughly he's beaten his opposition.

Bottom line there is no boxer in history that you can legitimately say has an obvious advantage over Vitali.. you can't say that about too many... almost all past greats had some type of flaw... whether it was a size disadvantage.. power but no jaw... you name it.. Vitali is the least flawed heavyweight to ever lace them up in terms of he's one of the few that has it all.. chin.. strength .. power.. size.. throws punches in bunches.. hard to hit.. hits hard.. if the ONLY weakness you can claim about a fighter is that his body fails him & not boxing ability.. then you have it all.

guys he didn't fight in his era Tyson, tua, holyfield, Rahman, maskaev, ruiz, haye, botha, mercer, povetkin, mccline, barrett, valuev, chagaev, Brewster, toney, oquendo, golota, bowe, liakhovich, wladimir klitschko, grant, ibragimov McCall... that is 15 world champions in his career that he never fought & were all out there... he did fight guys who couldn't hurt him like Donald, byrd, bean, etc... adamek, peter, arreola, kirk Johnson are his best wins. beating sanders & danny Williams means nothing as both were journeymen. sanders only win was destroying vitali's brother... he cherry picks & his mandatories were wins over Gomez & solis which isn't exactly astonishing... give me all the stats you want... 15 world champions in his career he didn't fight. his best competition he would of fought he pulled out of & retired for 4 years...botha, toney, oquendo,golota, grant, barrett, mccline, mercer, botha were not world champions... the WBO wasn't recognized as a world title until 2005...when Brewster beat wlad for the vacant WBO title was the first time it was legit...

[Boxing Goat]

He did F her.. it was just premature ejaculation/stoppage.. doesn't mean that while the sex/fight was commencing he wasn't handling his business... please we're talking a 47 fight sample where EVERY single opponent has suffered the same fate WITHOUT exceptions.


Klitschko does this to whom ever gets in the ring with him whether it's a tomatoe can early in his career or to a top 5 alltime heavyweight champion... we have evidence of how he beat one of the best heavyweights that has ever laced them up to the punch for all 6 rds they fought.. so saying it's because of opposition that he's done what nobody else has been able to do lacks merit or factual cause.


It was unfortunate those bouts to Byrd & Lewis never got completed in it's entirety but while the fights were taking place he was for the most part schooling both so stating he lost to the two best fighters he ever fought might betechnically true based on those fighters accomplishments it doesn't state the true tale of the tape or the controversial circumstances that ended both bouts.

If those fighters were truly better than Klitschko they should've mustered more than 3 collective rds out of 15 that they had fought Vitali.. all they did was outlast him in those bouts as Klitschko's body failed.. his shoulder & later his face.. his actual boxing didn't.. as for the other 45 fighters...Mayweather doesn't even remotely come close to how thoroughly he's beaten his opposition.

Bottom line there is no boxer in history that you can legitimately say has an obvious advantage over Vitali.. you can't say that about too many... almost all past greats had some type of flaw... whether it was a size disadvantage.. power but no jaw... you name it.. Vitali is the least flawed heavyweight to ever lace them up in terms of he's one of the few that has it all.. chin.. strength .. power.. size.. throws punches in bunches.. hard to hit.. hits hard.. if the ONLY weakness you can claim about a fighter is that his body fails him & not boxing ability.. then you have it all.

This is quite possibly the best post of all time. Well done.