Comments Thread For: Stiverne Vows To Take The Fight To Vitali Klitschko

[shisham]

Stiverne is underrated. He's going to bring it to Vitali but we all know that the back pedaling giant is going to use his height and reach to smother stiverne

[joe strong]

fight stiverne or retire! if you beat stiverne fight haye... good luck in the election after that...

[Boxing Goat]

guys he didn't fight in his era Tyson, tua, holyfield, Rahman, maskaev, ruiz, haye, botha, mercer, povetkin, mccline, barrett, valuev, chagaev, Brewster, toney, oquendo, golota, bowe, liakhovich, wladimir klitschko, grant, ibragimov McCall... that is 15 world champions in his career that he never fought & were all out there... he did fight guys who couldn't hurt him like Donald, byrd, bean, etc... adamek, peter, arreola, kirk Johnson are his best wins. beating sanders & danny Williams means nothing as both were journeymen. sanders only win was destroying vitali's brother... he cherry picks & his mandatories were wins over Gomez & solis which isn't exactly astonishing... give me all the stats you want... 15 world champions in his career he didn't fight. his best competition he would of fought he pulled out of & retired for 4 years...

You can't fight em all, especially when you share titles with your brother. Lets focus on something real here. Go take a look at some of the voluntary defenses on Joe Louis, Ali and Holmes' ledger and come back here with more sense. I love how you put a ton of guys on there who were either over the hill or crushed by Wladimir already. Then, to top off the ignorance, you put Wladimir on there himself. LOL.

Look, Vitali fought the only guy he had to fight to prove he was the man.
While Wlad was getting smeared by Sanders, Vitali was crushing the legitimate lineal champ and lost on an unfortunate cut. Then for good measure, he wasted the #1 contender, avenged his brother and took a big steamer on the guy who took a Mike Tyson win and payday from him.

Now, say that wasn't gangster.

[Boxing Goat]

fight stiverne or retire! if you beat stiverne fight haye... good luck in the election after that...

How about Stiverne then Fury?

[MAXIMUS~RICO~13]

Stiverne is the best HW not named Klitschko !!!! book it..

[KBRO]

guys he didn't fight in his era Tyson, tua, holyfield, Rahman, maskaev, ruiz, haye, botha, mercer, povetkin, mccline, barrett, valuev, chagaev, Brewster, toney, oquendo, golota, bowe, liakhovich, wladimir klitschko, grant, ibragimov McCall... that is 15 world champions in his career that he never fought & were all out there... he did fight guys who couldn't hurt him like Donald, byrd, bean, etc... adamek, peter, arreola, kirk Johnson are his best wins. beating sanders & danny Williams means nothing as both were journeymen. sanders only win was destroying vitali's brother... he cherry picks & his mandatories were wins over Gomez & solis which isn't exactly astonishing... give me all the stats you want... 15 world champions in his career he didn't fight. his best competition he would of fought he pulled out of & retired for 4 years...botha, toney, oquendo,golota, grant, barrett, mccline, mercer, botha were not world champions... the WBO wasn't recognized as a world title until 2005...when Brewster beat wlad for the vacant WBO title was the first time it was legit...

Sanders is the ONLY one to legit beat & destroy a Klitschko & you call this just a regular W over an alltime great heavy? Goes both ways.. all the fighters you mentioned never dared step in the ring with him... there's no legitimate reason all those fighters wouldn't have suffered same exact fate.. so talking about them is irrelevant.... most fighters he has faced.. i'd say about 85-90% of his opposition never got the same beatdown anywhere else but at his fists.. including Lennox Lewis.... that's how you REALLY measure his worth & his accurate value in boxing history...




If his opposition fared much better elsewhere.. then you have your answer.. we go on what we have... we don't go on mythical fights that never occurred & what he's done in a boxing ring.. no one has ever been able to duplicate... add to that his physical size advantage over almost every boxer that has ever laced them up & that's your REAL worth indicator.. talking about stuff that has never happened or won';t occur anytime soon to diminish something that has happened isn't logical but I guess in a boxing forum it is. Focus on his achievements & on what he's done in a boxing ring like I do & you'll cleaRly have raised your boxing IQ.

[joe strong]

You can't fight em all, especially when you share titles with your brother. Lets focus on something real here. Go take a look at some of the voluntary defenses on Joe Louis, Ali and Holmes' ledger and come back here with more sense. I love how you put a ton of guys on there who were either over the hill or crushed by Wladimir already. Then, to top off the ignorance, you put Wladimir on there himself. LOL.

Look, Vitali fought the only guy he had to fight to prove he was the man.
While Wlad was getting smeared by Sanders, Vitali was crushing the legitimate lineal champ and lost on an unfortunate cut. Then for good measure, he wasted the #1 contender, avenged his brother and took a big steamer on the guy who took a Mike Tyson win and payday from him.

Now, say that wasn't gangster.

i just pointed it out but if he doesn't quit vs byrd he probably gets them... i'm on my 4th decade of watching HW boxing. that quit was by far the disappointing thing i ever watched & at the time it pretty muched buried him until kirk Johnson tore his pec & vitali got to step in on a couple weeks notice. he was lucky to even get that fight. lewis would of retired after beating Johnson. vitali being the #1 (after beating larry Donald) would have fought for a vacant title. many of these younger fans do not realize how bad vitali was looked upon following the fiasco. it took him until the lewis fight before he restored interest in him. he got a gift when he got to face sanders for the vacant title then he makes a tough defence against danny Williams. then he retires instead of facing maskaev & Rahman...

[KBRO]

This is quite possibly the best post of all time. Well done.

Thanks! If more people on here would stop fooling themselves by creating faulty excuses for how dominant Vitali truly has been.. his career would be seen in it's proper light. They actually think they can explain away the fact that he's quite literally the most statistically dominant ranked boxer that has ever lived.. good luck with that if all you can come up with is who he's fought (which is beyond lame) instead of how he's fought.

[KBRO]

Stiverne is underrated. He's going to bring it to Vitali but we all know that the back pedaling giant is going to use his height and reach to smother stiverne

Vitali can throw punches from any direction he's going.. east/west.. north/south... this is why there is no boxer past or present that can tag him more than he tags them. & this is why you have NO chance of ever outboxing him in a boxing ring.. more chance of landing a lucky punch on his iron jaw than that ever occurring.

[KBRO]

You can't fight em all, especially when you share titles with your brother. Lets focus on something real here. Go take a look at some of the voluntary defenses on Joe Louis, Ali and Holmes' ledger and come back here with more sense. I love how you put a ton of guys on there who were either over the hill or crushed by Wladimir already. Then, to top off the ignorance, you put Wladimir on there himself. LOL.

Look, Vitali fought the only guy he had to fight to prove he was the man.
While Wlad was getting smeared by Sanders, Vitali was crushing the legitimate lineal champ and lost on an unfortunate cut. Then for good measure, he wasted the #1 contender, avenged his brother and took a big steamer on the guy who took a Mike Tyson win and payday from him.

Now, say that wasn't gangster.

That's what i'm talking bout.. nice.