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  • Ruthless One
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    #21
    Looks like a Mayweather fanboy's work. But who can blame him? Arum did add to the roadblocks when it came down to making the May vs Pac fight. All of them were to blame.

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    • JohnSmithJr
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      #22
      Originally posted by WESS
      It's fine, you can believe whatever you want to believe. The problem is, if Floyd didn't wan't to fight Pac he wouldn't have gone to the table to negotiate. Think of the Mayweather vs PWILL negotiations or the Mayweather vs Margarito negotiations. Remember them? Neither do I.

      When Pac went full coward over testing, that was all it took. If he had only agreed and not made a big deal nobody would have accused anyone of cheating or made "personal attacks". Pac never agreed and made a HUGE deal about nothing. Kind of like that cyclist that got so butt hurt when people accused him. Remember that guy? He smiled a lot and seemed like a really nice guy. Did I mentioned he smiled a lot? He was so nice up until people accused him. Now look at him. Made a big deal but ended up getting exposed.
      But there was no demand for Floyd vs Pwill or Marg. Why negotiate for a fight that the market isn't asking for?

      The demand was obviously there for Pacquiao vs Floyd, I don't care to get into either camps excuses, but, there was also some demand for Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr and remember how much money RJJ demanded?

      100 million. That's about the same price Mayweather was asking for. In the business world, we call that "pricing yourself out"

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      • dc3383
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        #23
        Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
        On another note, I do think **** Schaeffer is a fantastic businessman and an asset to the sport. But he does have to take orders from De La Hoya and I think that does get in the way of some of things Schaeffer wants to get done.

        Schaeffer started the Tecate discount rebates for the big PPVs and brought boxing back to movie theaters giving people without cable an opportunity to pay and contribute to the PPV sales.

        Schaefer was also prepared and ready to travel to Texas to get the ball rolling with Arum and Jerry Jones on staging Mayweather vs Pacquiao at Cowboys stadium. But, for whatever reasons, Scaheffer was a no show and I do not believe it was his decision to stiff Jones and Arum.
        Floyd wasn't going to fight in Texas that's why Schaeffer backed out and they settled on the MGM Grand. i think his father wanted to be his corner for Manny fight not Roger lets be honest as great as Floyd looked with Roger he looks even better with father at his advanced age.

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        • FrankieClutch
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          #24
          Lmao that was pretty damn funny

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          • dc3383
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            #25
            Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
            But there was no demand for Floyd vs Pwill or Marg. Why negotiate for a fight that the market isn't asking for?

            The demand was obviously there for Pacquiao vs Floyd, I don't care to get into either camps excuses, but, there was also some demand for Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr and remember how much money RJJ demanded?

            100 million. That's about the same price Mayweather was asking for. In the business world, we call that "pricing yourself out"
            When was there proof Floyd ever asked for 100 million oh that's was when he was supposely signed with Don King and the fight would be done in 10 minutes or was that from the South African investors that wanted the fight there? Floyd might make 100 mil from his last fight so maybe he's not pricing himself out

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            • WESS
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              #26
              Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
              But there was no demand for Floyd vs Pwill or Marg. Why negotiate for a fight that the market isn't asking for?

              The demand was obviously there for Pacquiao vs Floyd, I don't care to get into either camps excuses, but, there was also some demand for Tyson vs Roy Jones Jr and remember how much money RJJ demanded?

              100 million. That's about the same price Mayweather was asking for. In the business world, we call that "pricing yourself out"
              Yes there was a demand for Mayweather vs PWILL and Margarito. It was just years ago.

              BTW, Jones Jr wanted Tyson but Tyson lost to Holyfied who lost to Ruiz. Guess who Jones fought for that HW title?

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              • JohnSmithJr
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                #27
                Originally posted by dc3383
                When was there proof Floyd ever asked for 100 million oh that's was when he was supposely signed with Don King and the fight would be done in 10 minutes or was that from the South African investors that wanted the fight there? Floyd might make 100 mil from his last fight so maybe he's not pricing himself out
                You know what, I think that was Roger who said the 100 million. But either way, most recently, he demanded all the PPV buys and it's a fair guess that 100 million would be a conservative number of PPV sales and is consistent with what Roger mentioned.

                And now, the latest demand is Pacquiao to fight for TMT promotions? That's just asking for too much. Just another version of pricing himself out. And it goes back to making personal reasons a priority over business. Eg: Floyd does not want Arum to make any money even if Floyd profits himself... What a ridiculous attitude.

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                • JohnSmithJr
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WESS
                  Yes there was a demand for Mayweather vs PWILL and Margarito. It was just years ago.

                  BTW, Jones Jr wanted Tyson but Tyson lost to Holyfied who lost to Ruiz. Guess who Jones fought for that HW title?
                  The demand was minimal and limited to boxing fans. The demand for Pacquiao vs Floyd was REAL public demand.

                  How much did Jones get paid for the Ruiz fight? Serious question.

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                  • PAC-BOY
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    This is precisely true. He gets anything he wants even if he gets it illegally.

                    He's been promoting boxing for decades and if he wants a fight made, he gets the fight made. The pacfan ****boys are mad about that too. In fact they hate Bob for all the power and influence he has over boxing. They hate the fact that he has an agenda and Floyd hasn't been on it.
                    Floyd is a puszy...we (the world) knows that. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Its not Mannys fault the fight didnt happpen. Calm down. Floyd didnt have Manny on the Hand Pick list of easy opponents. I mean Floyd had to be a rich Coward and think about Health first.

                    smh...FloHos! :WORD:

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                    • dc3383
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JohnSmithJr
                      You know what, I think that was Roger who said the 100 million. But either way, most recently, he demanded all the PPV buys and it's a fair guess that 100 million would be a conservative number of PPV sales and is consistent with what Roger mentioned.

                      And now, the latest demand is Pacquiao to fight for TMT promotions? That's just asking for too much. Just another version of pricing himself out. And it goes back to making personal reasons a priority over business. Eg: Floyd does not want Arum to make any money even if Floyd profits himself... What a ridiculous attitude.
                      Why do people take the TMT thing as being serious; more than likely he would sign with Golden Boy if anything. Right now they are in the position of takes Floyds offer or fight somebody else. In 2009 its was 50-50 now its bend over and take what I give you. As far the Arum situation I wouldn't want that guy to make any money off of my name if felt he still owed me millions like Floyd says Arum does. Why should I help you make more money when you already owe me some.

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