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  • #31
    Originally posted by ayo' View Post
    I would like to say that I blame all these GGG is a god fan boys for the hate he gets. Bottomline Gena's an amazing fighter who's ring IQ is impressive, hence his selection of punches. His defense is underrated, not saying ATG. His footwork is great just subtle which is why his balance is amazing. He has great power in both hands. He ate stevens best shots. No one was rocked or hurt like others say . He is exciting and his boxing skills are also EXTREMELY underrated. They are subtle with the most minute of adjustments. I assume because its not flashy and he comes forward with pressure people simply label him a brawler. Ever heard simplicity is the greatest form of sophistication? Hes great at what he does. Hes human and not a super hero. Its all these fan boys making it bad for him elevating him up to mythical proportions which in turn makes people hate him. But if you step back and simply judge him for what he is and does AND on top of that hes respectful and humble youve got to like the guy. Hes good for boxing.


    In short.. fyck you fan boys. Cats like you make Lomachenko get the same type of hate. If one day they should just so happen to lose it doesnt make them any less of a grear fighter. Its you fan boys who destroy careers.
    Partially agreed. I think he's excellent for boxing and a sure top fighter. I don't necessarily disagree with this post, but I will disagree with what I've seen on youtube and here. Curtis Stevens is really not top level fighter; I actually predicted a 4th KO based on what I've seen in both fighters. Based on this I give GGG a "C" grade performance based on the fact that he allowed a hurt sub-par fighter touch him unnecessarily. I wouldn't be talking Floyd or even Ward at this point. I believe that with his last performances Macklin, Ishido, Rosado, and Stevens don't qualify him as being ready for Ward or Mayweather. Rosado and Stevens were able to touch him and were effective in parts of their fights. I think in order to prove his work he needs some good fights that will be good paychecks.

    Victor Ortiz - he claims he might fight 154
    Miguel Cotto - style wise this is an excellent fight especially in NYC. Good Russian and PR crowd
    Peter Quillin - another good style match up - somebodies going down
    Sergio Martinez - a chance to see if Sergio has anything left and to see GGG chase down a boxer
    Felix Sterum and Daniel Geale

    At 168

    Arthur Abraham - steal sharpens steal
    Mikel Kessler - I don't think he wants it, but I think he'll win.
    Carl Froch - big dude and a very tough fight - I lean toward Froch.
    Sakio Bika - who wants to fight him - ugly fight but a hard fight
    Andre Dirrell - Good fight for both; dangerous for both
    Julio Chavez - A very big guy, but GGG will be able to get off. Can he take the heavier punches?

    I would say that if beat any three of these guys it would put him in a better situation and he could have a super huge payday with Ward or Mayweather. The only thing is that if he starts fighting 168, he can forget about fighting Mayweather at 154 - too much weight to drop

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    • #32
      Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
      what flaws? This was an easy fight for him.
      He showed flaws defensively, he didn't look comfortable on the back foot, showed he's not really a good counter puncher.

      You can dominate a fight and still show flaws, which Golovkin did.

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      • #33
        Is this your first time watching a Golovkin fight? He gets hit. Watch the Ouma fight and you'll see flaws, and you'll also see an opponent who takes a beating so bad that they'll never fight again.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ImStillHere View Post
          I honestly think its Floyd fans(me included) who hate on him. Now don't get me wrong I think of him highly as a fighter and after Quilin's show against Rosado I would have him the clear favourite.

          But...... like you said there these people going on like hes a God and that just pisses you off when HoF's like Pacquiao,Cotto and Marquez are spoken down on so much.

          Then there are the skills argument. This is what pisses me off most.

          You have haters saying "GGG is a face first brawler", but then his fans come in to defend him saying "oh no, he's making small adjustments and is actually very skillful going forward". BUT, when Floyd,Lara,Rigo fans say "look at the subtle skills hes using, making his opponent chase him and miss punches" then the GGG fans go "why won't he stop running".

          It's childish, moronic and hypocritical.
          But then you're basing your hate on the fan boys. Late in the fight, when Stevens' back is against the wall and GGG is teeing off on him Stevens throws a right and GGG parries him beautifully - he brings his left up and the punch glances off his shoulder. It was beautiful. Any Floyd fan that does give GGG kudos for that is being hypocritical as is any GGG fan that doesn't give Mayweather props for his d.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by QuebecSTAR2 View Post
            I don't think ggg is elite but he is exciting like Trinidad
            He might not be strong enough to fight those bigger guys
            Remember Arthur Abraham, his power didn't help him at super middle weight
            But Abraham was kind of a wait around fighter who gave his opponents plenty of time to guage him. Whereas Golovkin doesn't appear to give his opponents any time, or space to think. His power may not translate to a ten when he moves up in weight, but whoever's in front of him at 168 is sure gonna get hit with a lot of stinging 7's and 8's.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Earl Hickey View Post
              And that's my concern

              GGG is about the same height as Abraham, but not as solidly built

              People forget easily, but Abraham was considered a real beast, he was favourite to win the super 6, and most thought he would knock froch out, and he got manhandled in that fight and looked so small in there, Abrahams excuse.... "he was just so much bigger than me"

              I can envision a similar situation with Golovkin
              AA had no head movement and had ZERO boxing IQ. Dood just shelled up and threw punches when a guy stopped throwing, the guy was crap. Also, people questioning his power holding up... He's has good power in both hands, but it's his boxing acumen that will seperate him at 168. Froch got clowned by Ward and even though GGG is smaller than Froch he is 100x's more intelligent in the ring. That makes up for his "lack of power" which is comical in itself. He drops Stevens in the 2nd round and from then on Stevens covers up the rest of the fight and now GGG has no power. It's hard to knock a dood out when he covers his entire face with his gloves.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
                Is this your first time watching a Golovkin fight? He gets hit. Watch the Ouma fight and you'll see flaws, and you'll also see an opponent who takes a beating so bad that they'll never fight again.
                I saw the Ouma fight yes and that's another fight he showed plenty of flaws. That was a bad fight for him.

                Stevens wasn't close to that bad, Stevens wasn't bad at all actually he just further showed flaws in the fight

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                • #38
                  Last night was a good test for him. When his trainer says he sees things he has to work on based on last night's fight you know he's not there yet.

                  Again, criticizing someone is not hate. If someone is on here making all kinds of illegitimate excuses for why they don't like him then you have a point. Like saying someone is "boring" because they don't engage in brawls. Golovkin has flaws. I saw some things about him last night that convince me he's better or slightly better than any other current MW. However, the competition will get tougher if he moves up in weight and he might get an L on the way.

                  Incidentally, I think he should be looking up in weight, not down. Unless he's going for a big payday.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by harwri008 View Post
                    I saw some things about him last night that convince me he's better or slightly better than any other current MW. However, the competition will get tougher if he moves up in weight and he might get an L on the way.

                    Incidentally, I think he should be looking up in weight, not down. Unless he's going for a big payday.
                    Why do you think he should not move down? Canelo, Lara, Trout, Mayweather, Cotto... it's a good division to clean out if he can get the fights.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mrsantiago View Post
                      Its just a way of being racist lol a slick way of being racist while pretending to not be racist so if your skin is dark tan your slick otherwise if your a lighter shade youre labeled more of a warrior the internet allows closeted racists to be themselves but heh what can you do when we live in a world where people think christopher columbus discovered a place where millions of people lived and the united states is all about freedom lol
                      Take your meds man. Only chumps throw around the race card all the time. Don't be a grievance industry all your life.

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