Is there an argument for Hopkins to be top 10-15 ATG?

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  • Warrios
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    #21
    Slow down cowboy. Did he beat Carlos Baldomir or Victor Ortiz? alright then.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #22
      Originally posted by Money Team.
      winky,pascal,cloud,pavlik,tarver-was over 40 when he beat them

      Tito,winky,johnson,cloud,pavlik-all undefeated
      Hopkins 40 isn't your average persons 40. He's still world class at 40.

      Cloud, Pascal etc aren't really that impressive of wins.

      Pavlik was a good win but the fight was at 170 a weight that Pavlik's done nothing at. Same as Winky Wright.

      And Winky Wright wasn't undefeated.

      I mean, like earlier mentioned, look at the resume being shown. It's really not that impressive in comparison to other ATG's.

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      • -Kev-
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        #23
        Where ever historians want to rank Hopkins, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd give #'s 1-10 on the ATG list fits, even 4-5 wins isn't out of the question. That is excluding any HW in the top 10.

        H2H Hopkins is pretty much competitive with any one in boxing history, even with the GOAT himself, Roy Jones Jr.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Where ever historians want to rank Hopkins, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd give #'s 1-10 on the ATG list fits, even 4-5 wins isn't out of the question. That is excluding any HW in the top 10.

          H2H Hopkins is pretty much competitive with any one in boxing history, even with the GOAT himself, Roy Jones Jr.
          Nah, Hopkins refused testing.

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          • LacedUp
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            #25
            Originally posted by Money Team.
            20 title defenses at Middleweight=most ever at middleweight

            Oldest Lineal champion ever

            Oldest fighter to ever win a major title

            Oldest fighter to ever defend a major title
            In one word. No there's not.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #26
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Where ever historians want to rank Hopkins, there's no doubt in my mind that he'd give #'s 1-10 on the ATG list fits, even 4-5 wins isn't out of the question. That is excluding any HW in the top 10.

              H2H Hopkins is pretty much competitive with any one in boxing history, even with the GOAT himself, Roy Jones Jr.
              I don't think anyone would dispute that prime Hopkins gives anyone surrounding middleweight a competitive fight.

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              • FrankieClutch
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                #27
                I personally don't think he's that high on the list, but surely there is an argument for him.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Hopkins 40 isn't your average persons 40. He's still world class at 40.

                  Cloud, Pascal etc aren't really that impressive of wins.

                  Pavlik was a good win but the fight was at 170 a weight that Pavlik's done nothing at. Same as Winky Wright.

                  And Winky Wright wasn't undefeated.

                  I mean, like earlier mentioned, look at the resume being shown. It's really not that impressive in comparison to other ATG's.
                  damn why the hell did i put winky as undefeated???wow

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Money Team.
                    damn why the hell did i put winky as undefeated???wow
                    Haha I figured it was a mistake.

                    We all have those "What the hell" moments.

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #30
                      If ATG stands for "**** Taking Geriatric" then he's number 1.

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