Gennady Golovkin vs. Curtis Stevens Predictions & Info

[New England]

Styles make fights, from one fight to the next different stuff happens.


Stevens is only alright calling him good is a stretch, he isn't a total hack and he has some positive attributes but any dude who gets beat cleanly by Jesse Brinkley isn't good

yet he made golovkin look bad? golovkin is the best middleweight on the planet. how is that possible?
one of the two things is going on, or both:
1. golovkin did better than he's being credited by guys who said he "looked bad."
2. stevens is a decent fighter.

i don't think stevens is anybody to write home about. he's decent. he's a top 9-15 guy. golovkin beat the f#ck out of him as advertised. you guys act like you've never seen somebody get hit before. in your other post you made it seem like there were several guys who can handle golovkin and take advantage of the opportunities he afforded stevens. there are not. stevens is the hardest puncher at MW not named gennady or quillin.

the backward steps golovkin took all night wouldn't make it out to my car. he's going to get hit. he showed a grade A chin and adjusted. he actually adjusted with offense. he took the left hook away by throwing his own right hand and making stevens shell up, and he took the right hand away by keeping stevens away and parrying / reaching for his jab.

[T18Z]

[T18Z]

Jesus, check these compubox stats:

[kiaba360]

He looked bad going backwards. I favoured Ward over him pre-fight, but I'm more certain of it now as he'll physically lean on and push GG back. I liked Kessler over him too as he has good movement on the backfoot, but I still think Golovkin can get to Froch, he takes too many punches flush and is pretty static.

I can't think of a pressure fighter who looks good when retreating/on the back foot. It's just an inherent flaw of his style, he's coming to smash his opponent and isn't planning to take a step back because he has power that will make most fold. What should be done against a pressure fighter? freeze them with combinations and hard counters, make them take a step back and stop them from building momentum. Stevens was able to do it in spots, the challenge for future opponents will be to pull off the strategy throughout 12 rounds.

[IronDanHamza]

yet he made golovkin look bad? golovkin is the best middleweight on the planet. how is that possible?
one of the two things is going on, or both:
1. golovkin did better than he's being credited by guys who said he "looked bad."
2. stevens is a decent fighter.

Or maybe it's option #3;

Stevens isn't decent and is actually not very good and the fact Golovkin had bad spells in which showing some flaws, he's not as good as people think.

i don't think stevens is anybody to write home about. he's decent. he's a top 9-15 guy. golovkin beat the f#ck out of him as advertised. you guys act like you've never seen somebody get hit before. in your other post you made it seem like there were several guys who can handle golovkin and take advantage of the opportunities he afforded stevens. there are not. stevens is the hardest puncher at MW not named gennady or quillin.

And what exactly is this based on?

the backward steps golovkin took all night wouldn't make it out to my car. he's going to get hit. he showed a grade A chin and adjusted. he actually adjusted with offense. he took the left hook away by throwing his own right hand and making stevens shell up, and he took the right hand away by keeping stevens away and parrying / reaching for his jab.

Of course he's going to get hit.

You wouldn't expect him to get hit by 3 punch combinations by a guy the level of Stevens, though.

Not sure what round it was but the last part of the round Stevens seemed like he couldn't miss.

[Weebler I]

lol likeable dood. I think he's gonna be sick of that 'good boy' pretty soon.

[New England]

I can't think of a pressure fighter who looks good when retreating/on the back foot. It's just an inherent flaw of his style, he's coming to smash his opponent and isn't planning to take a step back because he has power that will make most fold. What should be done against a pressure fighter? freeze them with combinations and hard counters, make them take a step back and stop them from building momentum.

set traps in the middle of the ring. if you have a good jab, legs, and power, use them to stay in the middle of the ring. if you find yourself on the ropes you get low if you're short, or pull an ali if you're tall and grab them. then you move / pivot to the side or hold.



you do everything from the center of the ring.

[The Gambler1981]

Props to Stevens he did better than I thought he would, he had somewhat of a chance to get his shot in but Golovkin was good enough to keep his foot on the gas and kept that from happeneing.


Golovkin didn't really impress he didn't look fucked up or broke or anything like that but there are real limitations to his game now not just anyone can take advantage of them and he stands a real good chance of putting in a solid run at 160. Just keep his ass away from Andre Ward~ Golovkin can't beat him

yet he made golovkin look bad? golovkin is the best middleweight on the planet. how is that possible?
one of the two things is going on, or both:
1. golovkin did better than he's being credited by guys who said he "looked bad."
2. stevens is a decent fighter.

i don't think stevens is anybody to write home about. he's decent. he's a top 9-15 guy. golovkin beat the f#ck out of him as advertised. you guys act like you've never seen somebody get hit before. in your other post you made it seem like there were several guys who can handle golovkin and take advantage of the opportunities he afforded stevens. there are not. stevens is the hardest puncher at MW not named gennady or quillin.

the backward steps golovkin took all night wouldn't make it out to my car. he's going to get hit. he showed a grade A chin and adjusted. he actually adjusted with offense. he took the left hook away by throwing his own right hand and making stevens shell up, and he took the right hand away by keeping stevens away and parrying / reaching for his jab.

Please tell me where I implied any of what you said~

Looking bad and have flaws shown are two different things, someone better than Stevens could cause him real issues does that automatically make him lose no but Stevens is a fringe guy at best. Now could just anybody do it no but beating Stevens is nothing it was expected, I didn't expect him to have any issues in this fight at all because Steven's isn't on a world class level, I thought Golovkin would show more and he showed less, so there is some room to be critical here~

Or is saying he can't fuck with Andre Ward a big slight now

[IronDanHamza]

Please tell me where I implied any of what you said~

Looking bad and have flaws shown are two different things, someone better than Stevens could cause him real issues does that automatically make him lose no but Stevens is a fringe guy at best. Now could just anybody do it no but beating Stevens is nothing it was expected, I didn't expect him to have any issues in this fight at all because Steven's isn't on a world class level, I thought Golovkin would show more and he showed less

Or is saying he can't fuck with Andre Ward a big slight now

Precisely.

You can look bad against a poor opponent, it doesn't make the opponent good.

You can win every round and still look bad.

Take Pacquaio-Mosley as an example.

Pacquaio won every round. He looked bad though. And that didn't make Mosley good.

Golovkin didn't look bad though, overall he didn't look bad. Just showed some glaring flaws against a fighter who had no business being in the ring competing for a world title.

[New England]

Or maybe it's option #3;

Stevens isn't decent and is actually not very good and the fact Golovkin had bad spells in which showing some flaws, he's not as good as people think.



And what exactly is this based on?



Of course he's going to get hit.

You wouldn't expect him to get hit by 3 punch combinations by a guy the level of Stevens, though.

Not sure what round it was but the last part of the round Stevens seemed like he couldn't miss.

you said yourself dan that you aren't very familiar with the top 10 of the division.

marco antonio rubio, andy lee, david lemieux are probably three of the hardest punchers not named golovkin or quillin. stevens is at the very least in the mix with those three. he hits harder than andy lee and rubio IMO by a long shot. rubio can **** a bit

lemieux might hit harder, but he's got a chin like a schoolboy.


stevens can punch, especially when compared to his peers. it's not like this is some division of great fighters. after golovkin, quillin, and "a healthy" martinez [whatever that means, the guy looked old against murray,] it drops the hell off.