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  • New England
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    #21
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
    They just hate America because they are good at EVERYTHING.

    Remember when Mexican boxing was considered dead a few years ago?

    hahahaha


    this is definitely what it is.

    people hate those that do better than themselves. i've never understood the phenomenon, but that's probably because i'm american.


    you respect the accomplishments of others. you respect them. you don't disrespect accomplishments. that's absurd. that's the mentality of those who aren't accomplished.

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      #22
      Originally posted by CraigM
      Problem with the ring is that it's been a very biased organisation for a long time.

      But USA will always be the premier country for boxing due to the money it spends on sport and population it has with access to sport, if it wasn't then there would be some serious questions.

      I might do some calculations with the amount of people per ring top ten entrant in the country.


      i always get a kick out of this phenomenon.


      let me find a sillier set of statistics that doesn't demonstrate that america is the best in the world.


      "per capita" olympic medals, perhaps.


      the best olympic nation of all time isn't america! goodness no. it's trinidad and tobago. per capita greatness.

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        #23
        this thread should have a soundtrack.

        elvis presley and america the beautiful on repeat.

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        • JAB5239
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          #24
          The numbers going by boxrec are even more skewered for the United States. I stopped at bantamweight but the numbers were.....

          US - 39
          Mex - 11
          Ukrain - 3
          Spain - 1
          UK - 13
          Germany - 7
          Bulgaria - 1
          Poland - 3
          Russia - 6
          Finland - 1
          Cuba - 4
          Canada - 5
          Panama - 2
          SA - 5
          Australia - 6
          Denmark - 1
          Spain - 1
          Puerto Rico - 1
          Philippines - 2
          Argentina - 2
          Japan - 5
          Italy - 1
          Thailand - 1
          Indonesia - 1

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            #25
            Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
            Well for 1 thing including P4P is gonna count some boxers twice. Also do the Ring allow fighters (eg FMJ) to be top 10 in more than one division. This is most prevalent at the 140-154 weights best represented by the US/Mexico - again meaning some boxers being counted 2 or 3 times.

            Finally, Kazakhstan has two world champs, Golovkin and Shumenov, yet is unrepresented in the list. This seems unreasonable.

            I'd say TBRB would be the one to use. And not the P4P as well as the divisional top 10s.
            Holing an ABC title does not guarantee a top 10 spot accept by that org.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              The numbers going by boxrec are even more skewered for the United States. I stopped at bantamweight but the numbers were.....

              US - 39
              Mex - 11
              Ukrain - 3
              Spain - 1
              UK - 13
              Germany - 7
              Bulgaria - 1
              Poland - 3
              Russia - 6
              Finland - 1
              Cuba - 4
              Canada - 5
              Panama - 2
              SA - 5
              Australia - 6
              Denmark - 1
              Spain - 1
              Puerto Rico - 1
              Philippines - 2
              Argentina - 2
              Japan - 5
              Italy - 1
              Thailand - 1
              Indonesia - 1

              poor PR.


              danny reps, though, and he's a top 10 p4p guy on any good list after the matthysse fight.

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              • CraigM
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                #27
                Originally posted by New England
                i always get a kick out of this phenomenon.


                let me find a sillier set of statistics that doesn't demonstrate that america is the best in the world.


                "per capita" olympic medals, perhaps.


                the best olympic nation of all time isn't america! goodness no. it's trinidad and tobago. per capita greatness.
                Please explain when I said America wasn't the best boxing country? Simple reasoning is because you have money to spend on boxing and a larger population to choose from.

                If you had 10 boxing champions from USA and 10 from Cuba for instance it'd be ridiculous to say that Cuba wasn't better on average.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England
                  poor PR.


                  danny reps, though, and he's a top 10 p4p guy on any good list after the matthysse fight.
                  Its been 2 year horrifying trend for P.R boxing. I just don't understand what's going on. I have to be patience. A new breed has to come up, Because the current one sucks.

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by CraigM
                    Please explain when I said America wasn't the best boxing country? Simple reasoning is because you have money to spend on boxing and a larger population to choose from.

                    If you had 10 boxing champions from USA and 10 from Cuba for instance it'd be ridiculous to say that Cuba wasn't better on average.

                    why doesn't' say Russia have more fighters representing than? They have population and thy have money.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by NAPO
                      Its been 2 year horrifying trend for P.R boxing. I just don't understand what's going on. I have to be patience. A new breed has to come up, Because the current one sucks.
                      I had high hope for Jaun Ma a few years back. PR will be back though, they have a great fighting tradition.


                      Where you from in Mass bro?

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