What fighters did Floyd Duck?

[AztecWanker]

$8000001 + a percentage of the ppv buys. Do your homework.

OMFG FKN kill yourself.

[blacraven]

@AztecWanker

Reading your posts makes me wanna kill myself.

..some people are set in thier own mind and common sense doesnt matter anymore.
Regardless of the money, Floyd wanted out and nothing more to do with Arum, hes been saying for years that Arum still owes him money(millions) that he never paid him. He was done with the guy, period.
If he wouldve fought Margarito then people wouldve said that he ducked a big tall Boldimir who just beat the hell out of Judah and was the lineal champ.

[ramses07]

funny how jmm ( dude who had just gotten to lightweight ) calls him out and he immediately comes out of retirement for that fight. but martinez, and pwill call him out, and doesnt acknowledge them.

btw whens the last time this dude has fought another black guy? (please don't say an old shane)

[boxingfan4life]

The only fighters I can think of is Paul Williams and Margarito. Other then that he has fought the best. Everybody says he waited to fight Cotto out of his prime. I say thats BS. He fought when he was coming off a 3 win streak all by knockout. And he fought him at a higher and more dangerous weight. Cotto ended up being Floyd's toughest fight in years, so for people to say Cotto was a cherry pick is laughable. If he was how come the great Manny Pacquiao didnt rematch Cotto at that weight? Also if you look at his other opponents majority they were either undefeated or coming of of big wins by the time Floyd fought them. But yet they people yell out cherry pick. Even though prior to the fight opponents are dubbed the ones to end Floyd's reign. When they lose all of a sudden their washed up or exposed, even though they would have given other opponents problems.

Floyd's problem is that he is so good that he gives the illusion that his opponents are cherry picked. The fact that he makes them look like amateurs (not Cotto) makes people think that. Its not his fault he is skillful. If Floyd is really a "fraud" then how come his opponents failed to gain the same success they did with previous opponents? It boils down to skill. As much as haters would love to see Floyd lose I just don't see it happening. I dont even think Pacquiao stands a chance. Marquez has shown that you only need to be able to time and counter punch to give pacquio problems. We all know who the best counter puncher in game is right now, so would Pacquiao really have a chance. He will give Floyd problems at first but he will adjust and win. We shall wait and see i guess

[ModernTalking]

Pacquiao

My health come first and what if I lose so I don't want to collect that easy 75 millions.

[NEETzsche]

the only fighter i hold mayweather accountable for not facing is margarito

[New England]

he didn't want to fight margarito or cotto.


he would have beaten both, but he stayed away from them in their primes.


he and pacquiao stayed away from each other. they were the two biggest names in the sport. if they really wanted to fight, they would have fought.


i actually think mayweather and pacquiao is going to to happen in 2014 anyway, but the fight between the two in '10 would have been superhuman. if saul alvarez, a relative unknown, could get 2 million in ppv against mayweather, pacquiao and mayweather would have done 3 million buys easily. maybe more.

[boxingfan4life]

he didn't want to fight margarito or cotto.


he would have beaten both, but he stayed away from them in their primes.


he and pacquiao stayed away from each other. they were the two biggest names in the sport. if they really wanted to fight, they would have fought.


i actually think mayweather and pacquiao is going to to happen in 2014 anyway, but the fight between the two in '10 would have been superhuman. if saul alvarez, a relative unknown, could get 2 million in ppv against mayweather, pacquiao and mayweather would have done 3 million buys easily. maybe more.

i agree with you on that. i think floyd and pac stayed away from each other so they could make as much money off other opponents as possible. they both know that once they fight each other there will be no where else to go. i predict they will each others last might win, lose, or draw

[soul_survivor]

Floyd is a duck, it's fact not opinion

Seriously, all of you have got to stop with defending Floyd, he has ducked countless fighters, time and time again.

I've gone through this so many times but I'll go through it maybe once more.

Floyd could have fought Kostya prior to his 2005 loss to Hatton. Floyd moved up to 140 circa 2004 and had 3 fights at the weight, against Bruseles, Corley and Gatti....this wasn't a short visit to 140, he was there long enough to fight the best and in Floyd's own words, he only wants to fight the best and biggest names out there. The biggest name at 140, prior to Hatton was Kostya yet Floyd fought relative unknown in Bruseles, a decent fighter but not a major draw in Corley and a badly faded Gatti...Arturo hadn't been anywhere near his best for almost half a decade now. This was the most laughable of all fights at 140.

If Floyd had said I'm moving up to 140 to fight mediocre fighters to get my barings than I wouldn't hold it against him, but he went on record, several times in his career, that he only wants to fight the best. Was Brusele the best? Or Corley? or Gatti? When Kortya was still around and had brutalised Judah, when Cotto was making waves...no, Floyd had the worst pick of opponents possible. Heck, he didn't even fight Hatton at 140 LOL

Then we have his move to 147, his resume prior to "retirement" was Mitchell, Baldomir and Judah. That's not so bad, considering Baldomir had won a huge upset against Judah and Judah was still a relevant and highly skilled fighter at the time. The Mitchell fight is ridiculous but it's understandable. Fair enough, then he moved up to fight Oscar, a ballsy move since Oscar was the best available guy at the weight, I liked the fight A LOT, it had great potential and Floyd deserves all the credit in the world...then came the BS retirement following a good performance against a game, strong and very competitive Hatton.

Hatton was in noway the best guy for Floyd to fight at 147, considering Margarito, Cotto and Mosley were active and Cotto/Marg were getting into the full swing of their primes. This would be understandable if Floyd then fought on in 08, calling out Cotto/Marg or Mosley but none of that happened. Just when the Welterweight division was getting into full swing wit ha crop of terrific fighters, including Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana has other names on a possible list of opponents.

Floyd not only retired but didn't respond to Williams calling him out or Margarito, especially post Cotto. Why is that? There is no doubt those fights would make more money than fights against guys like Mitchell, Bruseles and Baldomir, why didn't they happen? When Floyd was asked about fighting Cotoo/Marg, he replied they had lost...I think i twas Brian Kenny who then reminded him that they lost cos they were fighting each other, a good crop of welters being in good scraps.

Then came the Mosley question, 04-07 Mosley was still very good at 147, still fast, still had an engine in him and could **** with the best of them. Floyd said he didn't fight guys with 5 losses....and yet would fight him in 09 when he was a shot fighter.

So, post retirement then, Floyd went on record to say that he came out of retirement to respond to Marquez's call out....seriously? How is that even defensible? Marquez had, until that point, lost almost every major fight in his career and was a lightweight. Why did Floyd not respond to Margarito or PWill calling him out? Floyd, who says he wants to always fight the best was willing to fight a lightweight and not other, more relevant welterweights? Both of whom would have made him far more money? Is that ducking or not?

Then Floyd would eventually pick on a shot Mosley, even though Pacquiao was now the big man in the division, the other big cash cow and ready to make a 100 million dollar fight....let that money sink in for a second, Floyd can not make that sort of money with any other fighter on the planet, even now.

Floyd has now ducked Pacquiao for 4 years, longer than he ducked Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams and Kostya....4 years of the biggest fight in boxing's financial history, in that time he has deemed it fit to fight b level opponents in Guerrero and Ortiz...seriously, those 2? Since Oscar 07, the only half decent fighter he has faced was a post-prime but still very good Miguel Cotto. That's 6 years of 0 major fights...6 years.

And let's not get into the whole Canelo crap, that wasn't a boxing event, it was a marketing event and everyone knows it. Don't be offended but all the dumbass latinos bought into the whole, Canelo is HUGE, he's a beast, he can give Floyd trouble yet everyone knew that Floyd would have an easy...everyone with a basic interest in boxing and non-latino blood. Canelo's best work prior to Floyd was an unconvincing performance against a totally shot to **** Mosley and a very, VERY close decision against Trout. Yet Canelo, an inch shorter than Mayweather, was meant to be a beast, even though it took him an eternity to get rid of old, shot fighters such as Ryan Rhodes and a tiny 140 pounder in Matty Hatton.

Floyd's biggest fight even now is Pacquiao, if not than Bradley or Martinez up at 154, considering Floyd called him out at that weight.

At no point in this post have I mentioned the countless interviews where Floyd says he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao, claiming the media are putting words in his mouth, claiming he cares about his health and his family and that Pacquiao would hurt him too much and ever since Martinez agreed to coming down to 154, Floyd has been schtum on the whole subject, ask yourselves, why is that?

[T18Z]

Seriously, all of you have got to stop with defending Floyd, he has ducked countless fighters, time and time again.

I've gone through this so many times but I'll go through it maybe once more.

Floyd could have fought Kostya prior to his 2005 loss to Hatton. Floyd moved up to 140 circa 2004 and had 3 fights at the weight, against Bruseles, Corley and Gatti....this was a short visit to 140, he was there long enough to fight the best and in Floyd's own words, he only wants to fight the best and biggest names out there. The biggest name at 140, prior to Hatton was Kostya yet Floyd fought relative unknown in Bruseles, a decent fighter but not a major draw in Corley and a badly faded Gatti...Arturo hadn't been anywhere near his best for almost half a decade now. This was the most laughable of all fights at 140.

If Floyd had said I'm moving up to 140 to fight mediocre fighters to get my barings than I wouldn't hold it against him, but he went on record, several times in his career, that he only wants to fight the best. Was Brusele the best? Or Corley? or Gatti? When Kortya was still around and had brutalised Judah, when Cotto was making waves...no, Floyd had the worst pick of opponents possible. Heck, he didn't even fight Hatton at 140 LOL

Then we have his move to 147, his resume prior to "retirement" was Mitchell, Baldomir and Judah. That's not so bad, considering Baldomir had won a huge upset against Judah and Judah was still a relevant and highly skilled fighter at the time. The Mitchell fight is ridiculous but it's understandable. Fair enough, then he moved up to fight Oscar, a ballsy move since Oscar was the best available guy at the weight, I liked the fight A LOT, it had great potential and Floyd deserves all the credit in the world...then came the BS retirement following a good performance against a game, strong and very competitive Hatton.

Hatton was in noway the best guy for Floyd to fight at 147, considering Margarito, Cotto and Mosley were active and Cotto/Marg were getting into the full swing of their primes. This would be understandable if Floyd then fought on in 08, calling out Cotto/Marg or Mosley but none of that happened. Just when the Welterweight division was getting into full swing wit ha crop of terrific fighters, including Paul Williams and Carlos Quintana has other names on a possible list of opponents.

Floyd not only retired but didn't respond to Williams calling him out or Margarito, especially post Cotto. Why is that? There is no doubt those fights would make more money than fights against guys like Mitchell, Bruseles and Baldomir, why didn't they happen? When Floyd was asked about fighting Cotoo/Marg, he replied they had lost...I think i twas Brian Kenny who then reminded him that they lost cos they were fighting each other, a good crop of welters being in good scraps.

Then came the Mosley question, 04-07 Mosley was still very good at 147, still fast, still had an engine in him and could **** with the best of them. Floyd said he didn't fight guys with 5 losses....and yet would fight him in 09 when he was a shot fighter.

So, post retirement then, Floyd went on record to say that he came out of retirement to respond to Marquez's call out....seriously? How is that even defensible? Marquez had, until that point, lost almost every major fight in his career and was a lightweight. Why did Floyd not respond to Margarito or PWill calling him out? Floyd, who says he wants to always fight the best was willing to fight a lightweight and not other, more relevant welterweights? Both of whom would have made him far more money? Is that ducking or not?

Then Floyd would eventually pick on a shot Mosley, even though Pacquiao was now the big man in the division, the other big cash cow and ready to make a 100 million dollar fight....let that money sink in for a second, Floyd can not make that sort of money with any other fighter on the planet, even now.

Floyd has now ducked Pacquiao for 4 years, longer than he ducked Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams and Kostya....4 years of the biggest fight in boxing's financial history, in that time he has deemed it fit to fight b level opponents in Guerrero and Ortiz...seriously, those 2? Since Oscar 07, the only half decent fighter he has faced was a post-prime but still very good Miguel Cotto. That's 6 years of 0 major fights...6 years.

And let's not get into the whole Canelo crap, that wasn't a boxing event, it was a marketing event and everyone knows it. Don't be offended but all the dumbass latinos bought into the whole, Canelo is HUGE, he's a beast, he can give Floyd trouble yet everyone knew that Floyd would have an easy...everyone with a basic interest in boxing and non-latino blood. Canelo's best work prior to Floyd was an unconvincing performance against a totally shot to **** Mosley and a very, VERY close decision against Trout. Yet Canelo, an inch shorter than Mayweather, was meant to be a beast, even though it took him an eternity to get rid of old, shot fighters such as Ryan Rhodes and a tiny 140 pounder in Matty Hatton.

Floyd's biggest fight even now is Pacquiao, if not than Bradley or Martinez up at 154, considering Floyd called him out at that weight.

At no point in this post have I mentioned the countless interviews where Floyd says he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao, claiming the media are putting words in his mouth, claiming he cares about his health and his family and that Pacquiao would hurt him too much and ever since Martinez agreed to coming down to 154, Floyd has been schtum on the whole subject, ask yourselves, why is that?

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