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  • #71
    The only boxer that I believe Mayweather didn't want to fight was Margarito.

    People always bring up Cotto but Cotto himself said he wasn't ready at the time.

    People like to bring up Kostya Tsyzu but that dude couldn't stay healthy. He was hardly fighting. I believe Mayweather called him out after Gatti or before the Gatti fight...can't remember.

    Pacquiao he just wanted Pacquiao to take the tests which is a simple request.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by -Body Snatcher- View Post
      The only boxer that I believe Mayweather didn't want to fight was Margarito.

      People always bring up Cotto but Cotto himself said he wasn't ready at the time.

      People like to bring up Kostya Tsyzu but that dude couldn't stay healthy. He was hardly fighting. I believe Mayweather called him out after Gatti or before the Gatti fight...can't remember.

      Pacquiao he just wanted Pacquiao to take the tests which is a simple request.
      Floyd wanted the 140lb version of Cotto but didn't want the 147 version of him circa 2007. Floyd admitted to that and Cotto was making noise to wanting it.

      Manny request is BS and everyone knows it. Why? Because once Manny said OK to testing, Floyd moved on to another roadblock SO PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT "ALL FLOYD WANTED WAS TO TAKE THE TEST" .... because Floyd proved otherwise!

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      • #73
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        In absolutely no way was Gatti better than Tszyu. At any time in his career let alone that version.

        However that's not what I'm saying.

        Floyd wanted the Tszyu fight badly, and but it came apparent that it wasn't going to happen because #1 the timing was wrong and #2 they couldn't settle between the networks.

        Tszyu has spoken about this himself around the time this was unfolding and afterward.

        When that couldn't happen, he went for the next highest ranked fighter at 140 which was Gatti.

        I don't know how well you read but if you read my posts a few posts up I said that I felt that Mayweather avoided Johnston and Margarito.

        It's funny though that out of all the names you mentioned like Mosley for example who we know turned down a Mayweather fight yet you don't have the obvious one like Johnston.

        Makes me wonder if you were following the sport then.
        The reason I didn't mention Johnston is, and I'm sure you know this already, is because Johnston was never on the level of a Mosley, or a Margarito or a Pacquiao. If I'm not mistaken, the time at which Floyd was moving up to lightweight, Johnston was losing to Castillo and Floyd fought Castillo, I can't see any wrong doing in that.

        Yet, if you think Floyd ducked Johnston, you must surely believe he ducked Pacquiao, yes ?

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        • #74
          Originally posted by BadStoppage View Post
          Zab was still a viable fight, if he had fought Stevie it would be viewed the same as Judah.
          At WW, history proved otherwise. Zab couldn't handle being at WW for 12 solid rounds. He eventually crumbled. He has a loss in all the major fights at WW (Baldomir, Clottey, Cotto, Spinks, Floyd) and split with Spinks, who is more technical than puncher.

          Once Zab realized this, he moved back down to 140.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            Mosley didn't turn down Floyd. He preferred to fight Floyd a few months later because he had just had a fight in July (2nd of the year) and had a planned vacation right after that. Mosley was also interviewed saying that. Mosley then fought in February. If you were planning to retire, like Floyd, would you rather have Baldomir or Mosley on your resume? Easy for non-Floyd fans to get the right answer on that but Floyd fans just make excuses!

            Furthermore, there are interviews of Floyd saying NO to fighting Mosley and without a good excuse!

            Mosley was asking for a fight from late 2006 to 2010. In 2010, Floyd admitted that Mosley is now OLD (and inactive) ..... so Floyd fights that version, no problem!

            To also bring it up is funny considering that Floyd went on long vacations when other fighters were calling him out .... remember "I'm not fighting Manny or anyone as I'm going on a long vacation"
            Floyd had an excuse, a great one actually, I don't know why people hate him for it, he said Mosley had 5 losses, why should Floyd fight someone with 5 losses? seriously, come on!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              At WW, history proved otherwise. Zab couldn't handle being at WW for 12 solid rounds. He eventually crumbled. He has a loss in all the major fights at WW (Baldomir, Clottey, Cotto, Spinks, Floyd) and split with Spinks, who is more technical than puncher.

              Once Zab realized this, he moved back down to 140.
              Doesn't Stevie have worse losses than Zab? So people would treat it as less than they do Zab, I don't know what Floyd felt about Stevie but if your claiming he ducked Stevie than I have a feeling people would call Zab a duck if Floyd didn't fight him. As I said before ducking really is complicated word, if Floyd ducked than Manny ducked but people want to apply one standard to Floyd and another to everyone else.

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              • #77
                ...... And Yes, Pacquiao, You are Next!

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Floyd wanted the 140lb version of Cotto but didn't want the 147 version of him circa 2007. Floyd admitted to that and Cotto was making noise to wanting it.

                  Manny request is BS and everyone knows it. Why? Because once Manny said OK to testing, Floyd moved on to another roadblock SO PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT "ALL FLOYD WANTED WAS TO TAKE THE TEST" .... because Floyd proved otherwise!
                  Of all the fights that might have been ducked Manny is the most excusable, Max Kellerman even said he was thinking what is Manny hiding also Manny wanted half but he did 1.3 vs Oscar while Floyd did 2.4 so why is Floyd going to give half to a guy who didn't draw equal?

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                    Floyd had an excuse, a great one actually, I don't know why people hate him for it, he said Mosley had 5 losses, why should Floyd fight someone with 5 losses? seriously, come on!
                    Yup that was a good excuse for Floyd ....... to bad he forgot about it once Mosley was inactive and OLD, Floyd and Ellerbe approved the fight even with those 5 losses.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by BadStoppage View Post
                      Of all the fights that might have been ducked Manny is the most excusable, Max Kellerman even said he was thinking what is Manny hiding also Manny wanted half but he did 1.3 vs Oscar while Floyd did 2.4 so why is Floyd going to give half to a guy who didn't draw equal?
                      Think about it, why did this not come up from the beginning? The Oscar fights happened before 2009! By the way, people thought Oscar vs Manny was a joke fight because everyone picked Oscar to beat Manny convincingly. Apples and oranges.

                      Actually, people were concerned that Manny may ask for more than 50/50 initially because Floyd was out of the loop while Manny was becoming the cash cow of boxing. Yet, Manny was OK with 50/50.

                      Knowing Foyd's past I was su****ious but I gave him the benefit of the doubt for asking for testing but Manny accepted and Floyd then moved onto another roadblock then that was the stamp of approval proof that Floyd didn't want no part of Manny. Again, why bring it up only after Manny accepted the testing? At that point, Max Kellerman knew that Manny was hiding NOTHING!!!

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