How come you never hear of this Chris John fellow? (48-0, beat Marquez)

[boliodogs]

Don't believe everything you read. It was a robbery. I've watched the fight several times and John didn't win the fight even with the two point deductions. Even the ref knew John was losing the fight and he was trying to save him by penalizing Marquez. Luckily for John the judges were kind to him. The only thing that made that fight close was the two points that were deducted. To John's credit he made some of the rounds close, I guess the judges awarded him every swing round. Marquez was the one pressing the fight and John was trying to box and counter, but JMM was doing the better work through out the fight

I don't know much about him but I've read a few of his interviews. He said about 3 years ago that his fee for fighting at home is a minimum of $500,00, and for abroad a min of $600,000. He said that he would fight anywhere in the world if his fee was right.
And he beat Marquez pretty well as he's a very good boxer.

He's fought a few times in Japan and Australia, also 2 fights against Rocky Juarez in Vegas (I think). He was nearly robbed in the first fight and cleared that all up in the second.

He beat Juarez by a mile in both fights in my opinion. He is a skillful quick fisted boxer who is hard to hit clean.

[Spray_resistant]

JMM got jobbed and Chris John just hides out at home defending his title against other obscure Asian fighters, that is why you don't know who he is.

[Weebler I]

thats the buggiest load of crap that I've read in a while

duran, Arguello, Chavez, Tszyu, are all first class hall of famers. (none of those guys are american) if you're a great fighter you will get inducted into the hall of fame. simple as that........

I don't think you read or understood what I posted.

I didn't say they wouldn't induct foreign fighters, I said that foreign fighters don't place the same emphasis upon it as US boxers i.e. they're not really all that bothered.

"Hall of Fames" are by in large an American sporting concept, something commentators talk about across all their sports. No one talks about them elsewhere or at least, to nowhere near the same extent.

[pistol whip]

He beat Juarez by a mile in both fights in my opinion. He is a skillful quick fisted boxer who is hard to hit clean.

He also almost got knocked out in the 12th round of both fights. Of course you left that out about the 2 Juarez fights.

[PAC-BOY]

A lot of people think Marquez won, I'm not sure if it's a consensus or not. Besides that, John has spent years fighting nobody at home.

No they ***ing dont. Try watching the fight. He clearly beat JMM. It wasnt even close. :WORD:

[soul_survivor]

That's untrue. It's just an urban legend perpetuated by low-mentality band-wagon jumpers, which grows the more Marquez complains. According to him he's NEVER been beaten. Those who "think Marquez won" didn't see the fight. It was attended by only 2 Western boxing writers. They both wrote that John won well. and won comfortably.

One was Scott Mallon of RING and he scored it 116-110 which was about what the judges had it. I think the other was Steve Kim who said he was there on a vacation and saw the fight. He had it about the same score.

I've written about this damn thing at least 3=4 times. it's about time these imbeciles got the message.

MAAAAN you ripped into them Marquez **** suckers who have never seen the fight. I'm with you a 100% and I'm a JMM fan but John has done VERY well in the division.

Sadly it's the usual, uneducated, moronic case of, "he ain't fought in the US, so he must be ****e"

[285Kid]

Can Bob Arum or GBP get him to MSG New York City to fight Donaire or Mares?

[Kris Silver]

A competive fight and win over Marquez shows what level he's on, and average competion it may be, but you've still gotta be damn good to also not lose in 51 professional fights.

He's underrated imo, and would do well to move up.

[loui_ludwig]

Don't believe everything you read. It was a robbery. I've watched the fight several times and John didn't win the fight even with the two point deductions. Even the ref knew John was losing the fight and he was trying to save him by penalizing Marquez. Luckily for John the judges were kind to him. The only thing that made that fight close was the two points that were deducted. To John's credit he made some of the rounds close, I guess the judges awarded him every swing round. Marquez was the one pressing the fight and John was trying to box and counter, but JMM was doing the better work through out the fight

And surely we don't believe yours.

[HarvardBlue]

He's relatively unknown because he fights mostly in Asia. You know Asia, the new mecca of boxing. Incidentally, I believe that was a legit win against Marquez.