Floyd is 23-0 in title fights..2 away from Joe Louis's record

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  • GeneralZod
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    #71
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    haha you piss ant so your a Floyd hater after all , its not about Floyd its about " bum of the month brigade " a very well documented part of Joe Louis history , it was done because of BUM OF THE MTH .

    And at the arguments core its about fighting the worlds best competition every 8 wks for 2 years , lol todays camps are longer you imbecile .

    Your a hype swallower mate , you don't know sht about the actual fighting and what it takes , that's why you ignore the obvious to champion a number , just like you ignored the example I gave , name one from the names I gave you clown , most guys on forum don't need a history book to relate to those guys .

    And your saying they can beat their last 14 opponents at the rate of 1 every 8 wks .

    And you say you boxed , lol me thinks your Floyd hater that's a BS artist trying to win an argument .
    Because disagreeing makes you a hater.

    I'm not sure you know what the Bum of the Month club actually is.

    Because Mayweather isn't surrounded by hype?

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    • JAB5239
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      #72
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      haha you piss ant so your a Floyd hater after all , its not about Floyd its about " bum of the month brigade " a very well documented part of Joe Louis history , it was done because of BUM OF THE MTH .

      And at the arguments core its about fighting the worlds best competition every 8 wks for 2 years , lol todays camps are longer you imbecile .

      Your a hype swallower mate , you don't know sht about the actual fighting and what it takes , that's why you ignore the obvious to champion a number , just like you ignored the example I gave , name one from the names I gave you clown , most guys on forum don't need a history book to relate to those guys .

      And your saying they can beat their last 14 opponents at the rate of 1 every 8 wks .

      And you say you boxed , lol me thinks your Floyd hater that's a BS artist trying to win an argument .

      Todays camps wouldn't be longer if fighters fought more frequently. And as has been already pointed out, "Bum of the month" was a term coined by a reporter because that how Louis made them look...just like Floyd did with Canelo. You can't change the facts and it upsets you, I understand.

      Anytime you would like to compare experiences in boxing all you have to do is kick it off.

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        #73
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        False. On both parts.

        The Johnny Davis was not a title defense and nothing more than a tune up after his lay off due to the War.

        Pretty much every Title Defense Joe Louis had was against a Top ranked opponent.
        Here's a little info for you that I brought up from my internal memory banks. I just don't have the desire any more to argue with prejudiced imbeciles. You're better able for it.

        That Johnny Davis fight was only a 4 round exhibition, which at the last moment the New York Comm declared had to be a "title" fight, because a heavyweight champ couldn't fight a non-title. I think I have an old RING Magazine in which it's all clarified. The NYSAC did it for advertising purposes. At the time Louis had been out of the ring for nearly 3 years and I think his last fight before that may have been a 1 rounder against Buddy Baer. He also had an early KO (can't recall against whom) for (I think) Mrs. Randolph Hearst's War fund (so he was really out of it for nearly all the war).

        And he actually had those 14 (I think it was less than 14) defences in 2 1/2 years. Still a lot but that's the way he was being handled then and war was imminent when boxing would likely stop. He was a dominant champ who was always in condition. (The guys on here are like Pavlov's dogs. They react automatically -by using present day twice a year defences as their blueprint). If Louis' opponents were available and wanted to make some money, he fought them.

        I was trying to check my recollections with boxrec and it said it was overloaded and wouldn't respond. Has anyone had the same problem.

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          #74
          Originally posted by edgarg
          I was trying to check my recollections with boxrec and it said it was overloaded and wouldn't respond. Has anyone had the same problem.
          I think they want you to register. When I login I have no problems.

          That's interesting though. Here is the article in the NY Times:

          LOUIS EXHIBITION TUESDAY;


          Commission Approves Buffalo Bout
          Sergeant Joe Louis, world heavyweight champion on furlough from the Army after overseas service, yesterday received permission from the State Athletic Commission to engage in an exhibition bout as part of his current tour. The exhibition will be against Johnny Davis, Brooklynite, in Buffalo on Tuesday night.

          http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstra...8AD95F408485F9
          Last edited by -PBP-; 09-24-2013, 08:51 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by JAB5239
            Lol, reloaded owned again!
            You idiot , I originally said lost near as many as they won , figure of speech not a engraved in stone contact , they lost a big percent of their fights , way more than would be acceptable today , and he named the 2 years not me , those fights were during those 2 years .

            And they were BUMS just like Louis bum a mth , Robinson had them as well , so did Chavez snr , Monzon , all your prolific big number of fights careers , they all had a vast majority of average low grade opponents , the best comp they had in their careers was about 10-20 opponents the rest were journeymen , just like today , the modern era has a much higher over all class than what was in those eras.

            Idiots like you play scrabble with posts because your too immature to admit you were wrong , you just want to argue a number , you got fanboys mentality where all numbers have the same merit if it suits your agenda .

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              #76
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              You idiot , I originally said lost near as many as they won , figure of speech not a engraved in stone contact , they lost a big percent of their fights , way more than would be acceptable today , and he named the 2 years not me , those fights were during those 2 years .

              And they were BUMS just like Louis bum a mth , Robinson had them as well , so did Chavez snr , Monzon , all your prolific big number of fights careers , they all had a vast majority of average low grade opponents , the best comp they had in their careers was about 10-20 opponents the rest were journeymen , just like today , the modern era has a much higher over all class than what was in those eras.

              Idiots like you play scrabble with posts because your too immature to admit you were wrong , you just want to argue a number , you got fanboys mentality where all numbers have the same merit if it suits your agenda .

              Lol, ok I got it kid, you're the winner.....everyone agree's with you.....you've changed their minds with you incredible knowledge.....Floyd shoulb be considered the p4p GOAT and Louis should have his accomplishments erased from history.

              Does that make you feel better?

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                #77
                Originally posted by JAB5239

                Todays camps wouldn't be longer if fighters fought more frequently. And as has been already pointed out, "Bum of the month" was a term coined by a reporter because that how Louis made them look...just like Floyd did with Canelo. You can't change the facts and it upsets you, I understand.

                Anytime you would like to compare experiences in boxing all you have to do is kick it off.
                They cant fight every 8 weeks against top comp for 2 yrs , lets kick off right there , Floyd is the best defensive fighter in the sport , he couldn't beat his last 14 opponents at the rate of one every 8 wks .

                Manny couldn't do it , Leonard , Hagler , Hearns , Ward , Ali , Duran , Frazier , Foreman , TOP COMP does not allow it .

                And you expect people to believe they can , argue your numbers kid and make them better because of it but your dead wrong .

                Whats the point of comparing anything with your in a forum , we have already established your a bull****ter , I know you've done nothing with hands on boxing , what you say tells me .

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  Lol, ok I got it kid, you're the winner.....everyone agree's with you.....you've changed their minds with you incredible knowledge.....Floyd shoulb be considered the p4p GOAT and Louis should have his accomplishments erased from history.

                  Does that make you feel better?
                  Hahaha , you sound like a girl .

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                    #79
                    LMAO. This clown right here trying to save face.

                    He said

                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Be specific instead of coming with nothing but generalizations , show me any fighter that has 14 title defenses in 2 years , and then show me who they were and I, ll show you at least 12 low rent opponents that loses near as many as they win , they not contenders they glorified journeymen
                    I said:

                    Originally posted by PBP
                    OK. Henry Armstrong's welterweight reign from 1938-1940. Point to me 12 bums that have won as many fights as they lost.

                    And he named 2 guys that he thought were bums out of over 20 title defenses. Since he's a bufoon that doesn't know what he's talking about, he doesn't realize that:

                    Al Manfredo, his first selection (which wasn't even a title fight) was Armstrong's 15th or so fight that year. His 3 fights prior were:

                    Barney Ross - Hall of famer and CERTIFIED ATG. No question.
                    Lou Ambers - Hall of famer
                    Cerefino Garcia - Hall of famer

                    Three hall of famers defeated within a span of six months, in a year in which he fought 15 times and held titles in 3 different divisions (no junior divisions: Feather, Light and Welter). I mean damn, the guy was probably dog tired. And get this, he fought two of those hall of famers at a 15 pound ****in weight disadvantage.

                    You simply don't know what the **** your talking about cuz. Give it up.

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                      #80
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                      Originally posted by Reloaded
                      They cant fight every 8 weeks against top comp for 2 yrs , lets kick off right there , Floyd is the best defensive fighter in the sport , he couldn't beat his last 14 opponents at the rate of one every 8 wks .
                      What Louis did is an undeniable fact.

                      Manny couldn't do it , Leonard , Hagler , Hearns , Ward , Ali , Duran , Frazier , Foreman , TOP COMP does not allow it .

                      Because they didn't doesn't mean they couldn't.


                      And you expect people to believe they can , argue your numbers kid and make them better because of it but your dead wrong .

                      I don't have to argue, history speaks for me.


                      Whats the point of comparing anything with your in a forum , we have already established your a bull****ter , I know you've done nothing with hands on boxing , what you say tells me .
                      Yeah, I know. Why don't you dazzle us with some of your gym wars!

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