Floyd is 23-0 in title fights..2 away from Joe Louis's record

[JAB5239]

Do you think that is good ?

What is a prime WC in his 55th fight doing fighting a guy with 3 fights for 3 losses .

You cannot fight top competition and fight 14 fights in 2 yrs , they have to be very easy fights , and top competition does not make easy fights , Joes reign was equivalent in comp to the rise of Tyson where he had 20 something KOs in a couple of years against bums .

Louis fought more top 10 fighters than any heavyweight in history but Ali, who only fought 2 or 3 more if Im not mistaken. So Louis' reign far outshines Tyson's rise which you have laughably called "equivalent".

[IronDanHamza]

1. Jim Braddock 45-23-4 (current champion)
2. Tommy Farr 69-24-17 #2 contender
3. Nathan Mann 40-4-3 #3 contender
4. Harry Thomas 40-10-2 unranked
5. Max Schmeling 57-4-2 Needs no introduction
6. John Henry Lewis 98-9-4[ B] World LHW Champion[/B]
7. Jack Roper 61-39-10 Unranked
8. Tony Galento 76-23-5 #1 contender
9. Bob Pastor 38-4-4 #2 contender
10. Arturo Godoy 52-9-7 #2 contender
11. Johnny Paycheck 38-3-2 #6 contender
12. Arturo Godoy 52-10-7 #2 contender
13. Al McCoy 68-10-7 [B]unranked[/B]
14. Red Burman 73-16-1 #3 contender
15. Gus Dorazio 51-9-1 #9 contender 2 years before
16. Abe Simon 34-7 #4 contender
17. Tony Musto 29-10-1 #9 contender
18. Buddy Bear 51-5 #6 contender
19. Billy Conn 59-9-1 #1 contender
20. Lou Nova 26-2-4 #8 contender
21. Buddy Baer 51-6 #7 contender
22. Abe Simon 36-9-1 #5 contender
23. Billy Conn 62-10-1 #1 contender
24. Tammy Mauriello 69-7-1 #1 contender
25. Jersey Joe Walcott 44-11-2 Needs no introduction
26. Jersey Joe Walcott 44-12-2 Needs no introduction


Alright you ignorant fu*cks. That's 26 fights/25 straight defenses right there. The combined record of these fighters is 1,323-275-87. That's a winning percentage of 78%. All but 3 were ranked by the Ring in the year Louis fought them or the year before he fought them. One was a light heavyweight champion trying to move up and contend for the heavyweight title.

And this is the lineal title we are talking about. 1 champion and he beat several #1 and #2 contenders for his reign. Now since your an expert, handpick each bum off of my list and provide an explanation of why you feel he is a bum.

People stay talking out of there ass. Read a ****in book for once if you want to talk history.

Like I said, the vast majority were Top ranked. Louis beat every single fighter available.

Even the "Bum of the Month" club, the vast majority were Top 10 HW's. People don't realise or know anything about the "Bum of the Month" club or where it actually stems from.

People should take the advice from your last sentence.

[sugarsmosley]

People being disrespectful to the brown bomber!! Smh man. Nobody can deny his greatness.

[JAB5239]

For fck sake buddy , you didn't explain anything , the bold states the fight was ruled a HW title fight by the commission ., it don't get clearer , historians might not recognize it but the commission did , and what the hell is he doing fighting a 3 for 3 fight loser as a reigning World Champion

You will have to type into google " joe louis bum of the month club " and do a little research , I didn't mean a doco was made specifically about that , I ment its well documented in most all documentary's made about Louis .

Like I said I don't care what ratings say they don't mean class just what was there at the time , you cannot fight 14 fights in 2 years and they be against top shelf competition , they were low grade HWs that how it was done . .

I'd sure be interested to know where you got that information. Did Langford, Greb, Charles, Leonard, Robinson and others do it that way as well?

[JAB5239]

1. Jim Braddock 45-23-4 (current champion)
2. Tommy Farr 69-24-17 #2 contender
3. Nathan Mann 40-4-3 #3 contender
4. Harry Thomas 40-10-2 unranked
5. Max Schmeling 57-4-2 Needs no introduction
6. John Henry Lewis 98-9-4[ B] World LHW Champion[/B]
7. Jack Roper 61-39-10 Unranked
8. Tony Galento 76-23-5 #1 contender
9. Bob Pastor 38-4-4 #2 contender
10. Arturo Godoy 52-9-7 #2 contender
11. Johnny Paycheck 38-3-2 #6 contender
12. Arturo Godoy 52-10-7 #2 contender
13. Al McCoy 68-10-7 [B]unranked[/B]
14. Red Burman 73-16-1 #3 contender
15. Gus Dorazio 51-9-1 #9 contender 2 years before
16. Abe Simon 34-7 #4 contender
17. Tony Musto 29-10-1 #9 contender
18. Buddy Bear 51-5 #6 contender
19. Billy Conn 59-9-1 #1 contender
20. Lou Nova 26-2-4 #8 contender
21. Buddy Baer 51-6 #7 contender
22. Abe Simon 36-9-1 #5 contender
23. Billy Conn 62-10-1 #1 contender
24. Tammy Mauriello 69-7-1 #1 contender
25. Jersey Joe Walcott 44-11-2 Needs no introduction
26. Jersey Joe Walcott 44-12-2 Needs no introduction


Alright you ignorant fu*cks. That's 26 fights/25 straight defenses right there. The combined record of these fighters is 1,323-275-87. That's a winning percentage of 78%. All but 3 were ranked by the Ring in the year Louis fought them or the year before he fought them. One was a light heavyweight champion trying to move up and contend for the heavyweight title.

And this is the lineal title we are talking about. 1 champion and he beat several #1 and #2 contenders for his reign. Now since your an expert, handpick each bum off of my list and provide an explanation of why you feel he is a bum.

People stay talking out of their ass. Read a ****in book for once if you want to talk history.

Gotta spread some around before giving you green again, but this is a green k worthy post!

[dynomyte1444]

Doesnt matter, he isnt top 10 like joe louis.
Not even top 30

Hes number one or two.

Bernard who knows more about boxing than you says hes top 3

[The Gambler1981]

I will just say starting with the Genaro Hernadez fight Floyd has fought 28 times, the record of those guys is 1031-90-27 (I did this the other day but decided against putting it in the thread I did it for but figured I would get some use out of that work here).

Joe Louis and Floyd fought in different eras with different standards both had impressive runs which is better is a subjective debate you can pick either an not really be wrong. You shouldn't have to dog someone to prove how great someone else is, just big up what they actually did some will agree and some will not there is nothing wrong with that.

[Reloaded]

I'd sure be interested to know where you got that information. Did Langford, Greb, Charles, Leonard, Robinson and others do it that way as well?

By fighting bums , you CANNOT fight 14 world title fights in 2 years and they be top shelf fighters that should be apparent to anybody that fought , lots of bums get rated , don't auto think rated means a real world class fighter , it means you were rated at the time , if its a weak point in time its have terrible representation of that rating , and that has no weight as far as greatness goes , which is what this topic is really discussing .

Too many of you guys have never boxed , your only arguing interpretation of hype and writers opinions , you not arguing from the actual boxing .

[Reloaded]

I will just say starting with the Genaro Hernadez fight Floyd has fought 28 times, the record of those guys is 1031-90-27 (I did this the other day but decided against putting it in the thread I did it for but figured I would get some use out of that work here).

Joe Louis and Floyd fought in different eras with different standards both had impressive runs which is better is a subjective debate you can pick either an not really be wrong. You shouldn't have to dog someone to prove how great someone else is, just big up what they actually did some will agree and some will not there is nothing wrong with that.

Floyd
1031 wins -90 loses - 27 draws

Louis
1,323 wins -275 loses -87 draws

[JAB5239]

By fighting bums , you CANNOT fight 14 world title fights in 2 years and they be top shelf fighters that should be apparent to anybody that fought , lots of bums get rated , don't auto think rated means a real world class fighter , it means you were rated at the time , if its a weak point in time its have terrible representation of that rating , and that has no weight as far as greatness goes , which is what this topic is really discussing .

Too many of you guys have never boxed , your only arguing interpretation of hype and writers opinions , you not arguing from the actual boxing .

I have boxed. And what makes more sense, more bums getting rated because of 4 or 5 orgs or more being rated because of 1? Use some common sense.

So where did you get that information that they were " they were low grade HWs that how it was done . ."?