Floyd is 23-0 in title fights..2 away from Joe Louis's record

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  • ElMeroChingon
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    #61
    Comparing FLoyd to the GREAT Joe Louis? What a disgrace!

    Point #1: Floyd is allowed to pick who he fights. Do you think FLoyd will fight if he thinks he'll loose? NO

    Floyd fans cannot get past this major obsticle, as close to cheating his way to the record books.

    Imagine if Louis got to pick who he wanted to defend or win a title from, he'd be undefeated with a 50+ winstreak.

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    • JAB5239
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      #62
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Be specific instead of coming with nothing but generalizations , show me any fighter that has 14 title defenses in 2 years , and then show me who they were and I, ll show you at least 12 low rent opponents that loses near as many as they win , they not contenders they glorified journeymen .

      You have no argument I,ll give you a modern day example .

      Pick any significant current fighter you like Manny Floyd Hopkins Cotto Ward , it don't matter pick anybody you like even Hagler Hearns Leonard Duran etc .

      NONE . I repeat NONE of them could beat their last 14 opponents inside 2 years !!!

      All of them can beat the crap out 14 bums in 2 years .

      Your ratings don't mean sht in the context your trying to use them , the fighters class and form at the time mean everything so ratings need to be researched to see what the real class of the guy was , the ratings is just a sorting of what ever was there , its no proof of class .
      Why, because you say so? Louis did and they were almost all top 10 ranked. You can't change this fact nor history. Louis fought the very best of his era, many who are in the HOF. Why that upsets you is beyond me except you see it thru your nuthuggery as a slight to Floyd. It's not....but its also a FACT!!!

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        #63
        Originally posted by PBP
        OK. Henry Armstrong's welterweight reign from 1938-1940. Point to me 12 bums that have won as many fights as they lost.
        Howard Scott 38 loses , lost last 5 meeting Henry .

        Richie Fontaine 21 loses , lost 3 of last 4 going into Henry .

        Al Manfredo 20 loses .

        Bobby Pacho 48 loses .

        Lew Fieldman 45 loses .

        Eddie Zivic 28 loses , lost 5 of 6 going in to Henry .

        Frankie Castillo lost 15 , lost 5 of 6 going into Henry .

        Chalky Wright 16 loses .

        Bla bla

        You guys a full on hype swallowers with your nose stuck in numbers , you cannot fight the best best comp every 8 weeks for 2 years , emphasis on " BEST COMP "

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          #64
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Why, because you say so? Louis did and they were almost all top 10 ranked. You can't change this fact nor history. Louis fought the very best of his era, many who are in the HOF. Why that upsets you is beyond me except you see it thru your nuthuggery as a slight to Floyd. It's not....but its also a FACT!!!
          You fckn idiot , not because I say so because they could not handle the pressure and training of that , go look at their last 14 opponents you idiot and your telling the forum they can fight and beat them one after the other every 8 weeks .

          Fck off !

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            #65
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            He fought that tune up because he was coming off a lay off after the war, like I stated.

            Like I said, not all of them but most of them were Top ranked, go and check the rankings.

            It's not the same as Tyson because most of those KO's in his first few years were against Unranked opposition.
            It was a boxing law or tradition -and I'm certain of it-, that when the Heavyweight Champion fought, it was automatically for the title. He was not allowed any non-title fights. The reason was that it was the only unlimited weight class. Non-title fights would be advertised as exhibitions.

            The various lower weight champions would go on a "barnstorming" trip around the country (It's out of fashion in these modern, big money times). He would fight the local favourite, and it might or might not be advertised as a "title' fight.

            This heavyweight law may still exist, I'm not bothered enough about it to find out. You guys do it. It'll improve everyone's knowledge.

            That list of Louis' defences in which nearly all the opponents were ranked, should be a decisive closure. And Louis also fought several recent former champs and highly ranked opponents before he won the title.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              You fckn idiot , not because I say so because they could not handle the pressure and training of that , go look at their last 14 opponents you idiot and your telling the forum they can fight and beat them one after the other every 8 weeks .

              Fck off !
              Yet it was actually done. You're the only idiot kid because you somehow think you're going to change the facts AND history. Hate to beak it to kid, but Floyd will never catch Louis in number of lineal defenses. Do you need a tissue?

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                #67
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Howard Scott 38 loses , lost last 5 meeting Henry .



                Bla bla

                You guys a full on hype swallowers with your nose stuck in numbers , you cannot fight the best best comp every 8 weeks for 2 years , emphasis on " BEST COMP "
                LOL. You know you done ****ed up right?


                1. Richie Fontaine 21 loses , lost 3 of last 4 going into Henry .

                Al Manfredo 20 loses .
                Non-title fight

                2. Bobby Pacho 48 loses .

                Lew Fieldman 45 loses . I like how you ignore the 103 wins. You ain't slick

                Eddie Zivic 28 loses , lost 5 of 6 going in to Henry . Not during his title reign.

                Frankie Castillo lost 15 , lost 5 of 6 going into Henry .
                Not during his title reign

                Chalky Wright 16 loses . Not during his title reign.

                So out of 20 or so title fights, I give you a chance to prove your point and you name ****in 2 fighters. GTFOH man. You talking out of your ass about **** you know nothing about.



                Do your research. I'm done.
                Last edited by -PBP-; 09-24-2013, 08:24 PM.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  LOL. You know you done ****ed up right?


                  1. Richie Fontaine 21 loses , lost 3 of last 4 going into Henry .

                  Al Manfredo 20 loses .
                  Non-title fight

                  2. Bobby Pacho 48 loses .

                  Lew Fieldman 45 loses . I like how you ignore the 103 wins. You ain't slick

                  Eddie Zivic 28 loses , lost 5 of 6 going in to Henry . Not during his title reign.

                  Frankie Castillo lost 15 , lost 5 of 6 going into Henry .
                  Not during his title reign

                  Chalky Wright 16 loses . Not during his title reign.

                  So out of 20 or so title fights, I give you a chance to prove your point and you name ****in 2 fighters. GTFOH man. You talking out of your ass about **** you know nothing about.

                  Do your research. I'm done.
                  Lol, reloaded owned again!

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SBleeder
                    "Title" doesn't mean what it used to be. There were 8 world titles in Joe Louis's day; there are 68 now without counting all the "interim" and "diamond" titles.
                    Right. This is also why Pacquiao's "8 titles in 8 different weight classes" has to be taken with a huge grain of salt historically.

                    The likes of David Diaz would never even sniff a world championship if there weren't 4 straps per division.

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      Yet it was actually done. You're the only idiot kid because you somehow think you're going to change the facts AND history. Hate to beak it to kid, but Floyd will never catch Louis in number of lineal defenses. Do you need a tissue?
                      haha you piss ant so your a Floyd hater after all , its not about Floyd its about " bum of the month brigade " a very well documented part of Joe Louis history , it was done because of BUM OF THE MTH .

                      And at the arguments core its about fighting the worlds best competition every 8 wks for 2 years , lol todays camps are longer you imbecile .

                      Your a hype swallower mate , you don't know sht about the actual fighting and what it takes , that's why you ignore the obvious to champion a number , just like you ignored the example I gave , name one from the names I gave you clown , most guys on forum don't need a history book to relate to those guys .

                      And your saying they can beat their last 14 opponents at the rate of 1 every 8 wks .

                      And you say you boxed , lol me thinks your Floyd hater that's a BS artist trying to win an argument .

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