Vitali's mythical poor resume pt 2

[Grimmer]

Oh you think so?

That was the WBC belt dating back to Ali's lineage as I said before in this thread.

Think again naysayer.

Not only that, Vitali was the Ring champ and never lost it in the ring.

What say you?

What say you?

The belt means nothing when the champ doesn't hold it. That's the beauty of lineage, it ignores politics and follows the actual champion until he loses/moves up or retires.

The IBO belt at heavyweight currently means more than the WBC belt as to win the IBO you'd have to beat Wlad who is currently the number 1 ranked heavyweight, if not champion in some people's eyes. After he beats Povetkin, there will be no dispute, Wlad will be the heavyweight champ, he could relinquish all of his belts, everyone would still know who the heavyweight champion is.

At super middleweight Sakio Bika holds the WBC belt, but is he considered to be the man to beat at 168? Or is it still Andre Ward?

[LacedUp]

Yeah. As if it was on you proving another posters postulate wrong.

Either one backs up the claim made or STFU. Like jab did.

I'll just hope this Boxing goat will stop claiming Derek Chisora was top 10. lol

He was 'the man' when LL retired wasn't he?

Not particularly, I think he was considered the man along with his Brother, but he was only really the man after he beat Sanders, and defended it once.

[BattlingNelson]

I'll just hope this Boxing goat will stop claiming Derek Chisora was top 10. lol



Not particularly, I think he was considered the man along with his Brother, but he was only really the man after he beat Sanders, and defended it once.

He was 'the man' here though.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2004

So I guess Wardkke will have to revise.

[Boxing Goat]

Lol. You claimed that they were top 10, I did not. I provided you evidence that they were not top 10 in the annual rankings, and now you also want me to prove that they weren't top 10, even though you were the one who claimed I hadn't done research AND they were top 10.

Since you must have done the research, I'm sure you can jus find your notes and show us they were top ten. Otherwise you are just shelling out baseless nonsense in order to elevate his resume to a place that it shouldn't belong.

As always I'll wait for your proof..

You didn't prove a damn thing. You or any other d*ckhead idiot on here. You just keep spouting off bias hateful opinions.

I said they were top ten based on he seeing the actual rankings every week for the last 12+ years. That is my argument that Vitali is doing what he's supposed to do as a dominant champion.

You can't dispute it so F OFF already.

I'm done schooling you. You just can't accept it because you must have eaten paint chips as a child or something.

[LacedUp]

He was 'the man' here though.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2004

So I guess Wardkke will have to revise.

Didn't read what he said, but no one can doubt Vitali Klitschko was the man after beating Sanders who also was just the man for a very short period of time, similarly to Hasim Rahman. The problem is that Vitali defended it ONCE against the mighty Danny Williams, just once.

Whether it's his brother, his father, his friend or his son who's considered champion, it doesn't make Vitali anymore of a champion, as there can only be one.

And please, please nobody say: "I consider Klitschko as champion".

[LacedUp]

You didn't prove a damn thing. You or any other d*ckhead idiot on here. You just keep spouting off bias hateful opinions.

I said they were top ten based on he seeing the actual rankings every week for the last 12+ years. That is my argument that Vitali is doing what he's supposed to do as a dominant champion.

You can't dispute it so F OFF already.

I'm done schooling you. You just can't accept it because you must have eaten paint chips as a child or something.

I just explained to you that you were the ones making the claims, I wasn't.

But I get it... You SAW the rankings! Oh, well I'm sorry I ever doubted it then. You have solved all mysteries for me. I don't doubt that Derek Chisora was an established top 10 fighter, even though he only had 16 fights or so with two losses against nobodies (at the time, Helenius still), if you SAW it.

Jesus we have some ******ed idiots on this forum.

Btw, I will let everyone else make up their minds as to whether or not you "schooled me".

You saw them.. haha, that cracked me up. Chisora wasn't included in the 2011 final ratings, but somehow - without fighting - managed to creep into the top 10, though he was ranked around 20 at the time.

[Boxing Goat]

Yes. Not nitpicking or nothing as a that was a dominating win by WK but the Mercer he fought was around 40 and not the same as he was in the mid 90s.

It was a good win for Wlad (not Vitali) as Wlad did what an up-and-coming fighter is supposed to do - and that is to dominate an old-guard gate keeper. If WK had trouble with Mercer we all would be pointing to that fight.

The original post was that the 1990s had far better competition than what exists today. F**k it - Tyson Fury is considered a TOP 5 boxer. What's up with that? I like the guy, and his skills have vastly improved over the past 3 years but still. If that doesn't show the level of competition at the heavyweight level today ... what does?

You are nitpicking by saying that Mercer was better when Wladimir himself destroyed him at a time when Vitali was killing the guys that knocked Wladimir out.

Yea Mercer was older but as you say, 40 is not that over the hill for a heavyweight dedicated to their craft.

Wladimir and Vitali would have beaten any version of him too.

[LacedUp]

You didn't prove a damn thing. You or any other d*ckhead idiot on here. You just keep spouting off bias hateful opinions.

I said they were top ten based on he seeing the actual rankings every week for the last 12+ years. That is my argument that Vitali is doing what he's supposed to do as a dominant champion.

You can't dispute it so F OFF already.

I'm done schooling you. You just can't accept it because you must have eaten paint chips as a child or something.

Oh and btw, here's your proof you damn turd:

ww.ring tv.crave online.com/blog/171489-ring-ratings-update-fighters-moving-up-in-weight-hold-their-positions

"UP NEXT

Rated fighters in action this coming weekend (with current ratings)

Heavyweight: Vitali Klitschko (No. 1) vs. Dereck Chisora (Saturday); Chris Arreola (No. 9) vs. Eric Molina (Saturday)"

[LacedUp]

You are nitpicking by saying that Mercer was better when Wladimir himself destroyed him at a time when Vitali was killing the guys that knocked Wladimir out.

Yea Mercer was older but as you say, 40 is not that over the hill for a heavyweight dedicated to their craft.

Wladimir and Vitali would have beaten any version of him too.

Keep digging yourself a hole troll.

[Grimmer]

He was 'the man' here though.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2004

So I guess Wardkke will have to revise.

So he won the heavyweight championship of the world and defended it once and against Danny Williams? And this makes him an ATG?