Doug Fisher on the Margarito handwrap scandal

[El Angel]

Cotto is a better technical boxer than Margarito. Margarito was a better fighter and more man than Cotto, that's why he beat him.

A guy who is "more man" wouldn't have to cheat. He's a better brawler than Cotto, his chin and stamina are better than Cotto's, he is not a better fighter than Cotto.

[The Big Dunn]

He didn't cheat, his trainer did.

im stating facts here.

I never said he didn't deserve the year ban. There's also a difference in what he did and what Luis Resto did for example and people make that comparison.

They found illegal substances in his gloves, whether a pinch or a lot, it makes no difference. He had to be punished but there is a difference in what he's been accused of.

Also, you responded to a poster that said "no matter what people say I will never change my mind on this" you agreed. Sad man, I thought you were one of the rational ones who let the facts and rational thinking make the decisions for you

I couldn't agree more and the same thing I did. I don't care if he's Mexican, I condemned him because as a former boxer, that is the unforgivable sin.

I took the time to actually read the report which can be found on line and I was shocked to find out the truth of the report. Also, ****m Richardson deserves some criticism as well. He was quoted as saying that a "brick fell out" of the wraps and that was simply not true.

Not surprised by the way he likes to embellish things and use superlatives when making a point.

I have a hard time believing margs didn't know what was going on. I also have a hard time thinking this was the first time and nazeem just got lucky and played a hunch.

I'm not saying its as bad as resto.

I just can't believe that a trainer picked this fight to start with plaster. Why shane and why then? And how was naseem so sure? He's a brilliant trainer but he can't see through leather.

No, I have no proof he used before.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

A guy who is "more man" wouldn't have to cheat. He's a better brawler than Cotto, his chin and stamina are better than Cotto's, he is not a better fighter than Cotto.

No proof he ever cheated and Cotto fans are way to arrogant to think that he'd need to cheat to beat Miguel. That's what always gets me. The sheer arrogance of Cotto fanboys. You never hear fans of any of the other fighters Margarito fought complain so much about the handwrap ****. Tony had his number, his style is always one that would make Miguel wilt

[El Angel]

No proof he ever cheated and Cotto fans are way to arrogant to think that he'd need to cheat to beat Miguel. That's what always gets me. The sheer arrogance of Cotto fanboys. You never hear fans of any of the other fighters Margarito fought complain so much about the handwrap ****. Tony had his number, his style is always one that would make Miguel wilt

So the fight right before the one he got busted cheating in shouldn't be under su****ion? And how is it arrogant, Cotto was the best opponent he had ever faced by far, to think Tony thought he might need "extra" help isn't that ludicrous. Cotto has a large and vocal fan base, unlike Cintron, Golden Johnson, Paul Williams, etc.'s 38 fans.

His style is horrible for Cotto, he just doesn't have the "natural" ability to make it work, he needed "help". When his wraps were under scrutiny in the rematch, he couldn't pull it off, when posters, yourself included, said that he would make Cotto take a knee again.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So the fight right before the one he got busted cheating in shouldn't be under su****ion? And how is it arrogant, Cotto was the best opponent he had ever faced by far, to think Tony thought he might need "extra" help isn't that ludicrous. Cotto has a large and vocal fan base, unlike Cintron, Golden Johnson, Paul Williams, etc.'s 38 fans.

His style is horrible for Cotto, he just doesn't have the "natural" ability to make it work, he needed "help". When his wraps were under scrutiny in the rematch, he couldn't pull it off, when posters, yourself included, said that he would make Cotto take a knee again.

The best opponent he ever faced by far? Once again...sheer arrogance.

Sergio Martinez is better than Cotto. Joshua Clottey beat Cotto. Paul Williams would beat Cotto too. They are all tougher men than Cotto too.

Cotto has a vocal fanbase and all the vocals you can hear is crying like little girls.

Margarito was one eyed and shot in the rematch. I pretty much called that they'd find a way to stop it in favour of Cotto.

[BKM-2010]

After years the knowledge of the boxing community hasn't gotten any better. It's still "UUUHHHH I'M JUST GONNA CLOSE MY EARS AND YELL THAT HE CHEATED WITH PLASTER AND I DON'T CARE WHAT IS SAID".

[El Angel]

The best opponent he ever faced by far? Once again...sheer arrogance.

Sergio Martinez is better than Cotto. Joshua Clottey beat Cotto. Paul Williams would beat Cotto too. They are all tougher men than Cotto too.

Cotto has a vocal fanbase and all the vocals you can hear is crying like little girls.

Margarito was one eyed and shot in the rematch. I pretty much called that they'd find a way to stop it in favour of Cotto.

That green Sergio is better than prime Cotto? And the majority thinks Cotto beat Clottey. Paul Williams? Quintana found a way to outbox him, Cotto could too, PW is very overrated fighter on these boards. Tougher? Bullshit.

Pretty much everyone thinks he cheated against Cotto, most not even Cotto fans. Hilarious that he'll never get credit for that win, as badly as Margo fans want it.

And Cotto was prime in the rematch? Outboxed and beat his ass for the whole fight and would have gotten an easy shut out decision if the doctor didn't stop it. He didn't need any help.

[Slyboots]

This topic will never die.



EVER.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

That green Sergio is better than prime Cotto? And the majority thinks Cotto beat Clottey. Paul Williams? Quintana found a way to outbox him, Cotto could too, PW is very overrated fighter on these boards. Tougher? Bullshit.

Pretty much everyone thinks he cheated against Cotto, most not even Cotto fans. Hilarious that he'll never get credit for that win, as badly as Margo fans want it.

And Cotto was prime in the rematch? Outboxed and beat his ass for the whole fight and would have gotten an easy shut out decision if the doctor didn't stop it. He didn't need any help.

They are all tougher than Cotto and so was Shane Mosley. That's another thing that gets me, Cotto fans are arrogant enough to think that he's as tough as Mosley. Asking why he'd need plaster for Mosley but not the iron man, Cotto....LOL

All of those fighters had better chins and were more durable. Stop acting like Cotto was some terminator before Margarito beat him. He went life and death with Ricardo Torres ffs!

[El Angel]

They are all tougher than Cotto and so was Shane Mosley. That's another thing that gets me, Cotto fans are arrogant enough to think that he's as tough as Mosley. Asking why he'd need plaster for Mosley but not the iron man, Cotto....LOL

All of those fighters had better chins and were more durable. Stop acting like Cotto was some terminator before Margarito beat him. He went life and death with Ricardo Torres ffs!

Shane Mosley who struggled with Ricardo Mayorga and people were concerned about him dying in the Margarito fight? The public perception of him was dead man walking going into that fight. And didn't Cotto beat Mosley? Yeah.

Cotto's chin is so underrated and it's a damn shame. I've argued that exact topic with you before.

He was beating top WW's and was top 10 P4P going into that fight. Torres? At 140, he got wobbled a lot towards the end because of clear struggle to make the weight.