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  • RedRum
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    #71
    yeah, I've heard that already. Anything else?

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    • USA4LIFE
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      #72
      Originally posted by PBF34
      in his prime, roy was untouchable and no one can compare to his natural gifts
      PBF34 sometimes you just can't win. Some people here are so blinded by their hatred towards RJJ that they fail to see how good he really was. It's clear these ppl have some sort of vendetta towards RJJ.

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      • Bozo_no no
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        #73
        Originally posted by MIKEYTWOFIVE
        He's defended his belt against four former world champions, Charles Brewer, Robin Reid(prime), Richie Woodhall, Byron Mitchell, far better than the guys Roy defended his super middleweight belt against.



        - Woodhall was knocked out by KEITH HOLMES prior to Calzahge getting to him

        - Ried was always a marginal fringe contender. Thulane Malinga beat him right before Calzaghe did, and got a wide UD. Calzaghe got a SD

        - Brewer was brutalized in 3 rounds by Antwon Echols right before he went 12 rounds with Calzaghe

        - Byron Mitchell was coming off a loss to Ottke, dropped Calzaghe, and then was the victem of a blatent and soft home town stoppage.

        What super middleweights has Joe missed fights with?
        When you look at Calzaghe's sub par resume over the last 8 years or so, you notice that he was at Supper Middleweight the entire time, yet managed to miss encounters Sven Ottke, Eric Lucas, Markus Beyer, Anthony Mundine, Antwun Echols, Mikkel Kessler, Danny Green, Jeff Lacy (up until now).


        Ottke does count, because I don't buy that such a big fight was avaialable (like many others) and that it was completley Ottke's fault it didn't come off.

        I always get a list of excuses from Calzaghe's fans about why many of those fights didn't come off. And if it was once or twice I could see it. But when he spent the better portion of his career having fights not come off and missing countless opportunities to face better competition than he did, he loses the benifit of the doubt.

        There is no way those many match ups, plus dreamed of match ups like Jones, Hopkins, Clinton Woods, Glen Johnson ...

        all didn't come off and I'm supposed to buy that eveyone was ducking Calzaghe and not vice versa, ESPECIALLY when FRANK WARREN was his Manager.

        Doesn't fly.

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        • Bozo_no no
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          #74
          Originally posted by RedRum
          yeah, I've heard that already. Anything else?
          Did you hear the one about the ignorant **** who was banned several times but kept coming back in hiding?

          That's a good one.

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          • RedRum
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            #75
            Your material is BORING, Boozer.

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            • Bozo_no no
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              #76
              Originally posted by RedRum
              Your material is BORING, Boozer.

              Your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th accounts were more boring.

              Yet here you are back with #5.

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              • RedRum
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                #77
                3rd account, boozer.

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                • MIKEYTWOFIVE
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                  #78
                  Richie very bravely came out for the last round against Keith Holmes with a dislocated shoulder because he was clearly winning the fight and only needed to last three mins before he was world champion. He was stopped due to shoulder not knocked out. Afterwards when everybody saw how judges actually had the fight scored, it was shocking and clear proof that Woodhall would of been on the end of terrible robbery. The american commentators even had Woodhall three or four rounds in front. Thats one of the reasons Calzaghe has'nt gone to america and i dont blame him.

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                  • Bozo_no no
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by RedRum
                    3rd account, boozer.

                    That's been exposed, Truprincess.

                    Last time I saw you it was hating on Mayweather, the best fighter around at present.

                    Now you've crawled out from under your rock to call one of the greatest fighters of the last generation a "sham".

                    Your valuable imput has really been missed.

                    It sure is a good thing you've come crawling back in hiding under so many new accounts.

                    Isn't it funny how your ignorant drivel gives you away in less than 20 posts?

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                    • Bozo_no no
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by MIKEYTWOFIVE
                      Richie very bravely came out for the last round against Keith Holmes with a dislocated shoulder because he was clearly winning the fight and only needed to last three mins before he was world champion. He was stopped due to shoulder not knocked out. Afterwards when everybody saw how judges actually had the fight scored, it was shocking and clear proof that Woodhall would of been on the end of terrible robbery. The american commentators even had Woodhall three or four rounds in front. Thats one of the reasons Calzaghe has'nt gone to america and i dont blame him.

                      Does that somehow change the fact he's been in the same divison his entire career and has managed to miss fighting a long list of credible contenders in place of stiffs?

                      Does it make his poor resume any better?

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